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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl
In any case, you seem to fail to realize that the central idea of the American system is that human rights inalienably exist in persons because they are direct gifts of God;

I believe they inalienably exist because this is everyone's world. It's a birthright. We are all citizens of this planet.

Whatever your view of God is, understand that our entire American constitutional system utterly depends on Him for its rational integrity.

More straw men. How can it depend on that if it is not a requirement of American citizens to akcnowledge tjhe existence of God?

The French Revolution was the single most radical separation of church and state in the history of mankind.

Given the makeup of the pre-revolutionary French society (the estates), it is not surprising that the level of polarization and hatred existed under the surface, and hence the savagery and anarchy that resulted. 

The result was profound social disorder, even chaos, which finally became so intolerable that people were glad for a "strong man" to come in and clean up the mess.

Napoleon was the native son of the Reovlution, who defeated the Austirans thretaening the Repiblic, and made France successful and respected by her enmeies. He was also very popualr. Nothing unusualt about that.

That would be Napoleon, who plunged Europe into a war fought literally worldwide, which lasted for decades.

War was a common and legally acceptable means of implementing foreign policy in those days. You can't grade Napoleon by 21st century standards.

Our own dear Captain Zero (the so-called sitting president) is OUR present-day would-be "strong man," who not only "never lets a good crisis go to waste," but supplies an outrageous example of lawlessness seemingly every day of the week. He is no fan of Christianity either.

I really can't disagree with you at all on this.

Try to see the big picture here, dear kosta.... Whose side are you on?

How dare you?! I served this country honorably for 20+ years; six and a half years edeployed overseas, including areas where postal stamps are not required to mail a letter home and where weekends and work hours don's exist; where you sleep and shower with a flack jacked, k-pot and your side arm, where you don't pay any taxes, and draw something called combat pay.

How dare you ask me whose side I am on, just because I don't share your infatuation with some imaginary Platonic entity in the sky? This is America. I don't have to believe in God because I live in freedom. There is no official truth, and no state God here. Not yet anyway.

940 posted on 07/15/2010 3:48:24 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: kosta50
How dare you ask me whose side I am on, just because I don't share your infatuation with some imaginary Platonic entity in the sky? This is America. I don't have to believe in God because I live in freedom. There is no official truth, and no state God here. Not yet anyway.

The propaganda says freedom. The reality ended with such things as the elimination of the gold standard and the creation of eminent domain.

952 posted on 07/15/2010 5:15:12 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl
bb wrote: Our own dear Captain Zero (the so-called sitting president) is OUR present-day would-be "strong man," who not only "never lets a good crisis go to waste," but supplies an outrageous example of lawlessness seemingly every day of the week. He is no fan of Christianity either.

To which kosta replied: I really can't disagree with you at all on this.

LOL kosta! I do believe this is the first time I've ever seen you agree (or at least not disagree) with anyone about anything.

1,097 posted on 07/17/2010 9:52:13 AM PDT by betty boop (Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
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