That would be the "Holy C".
Point goes unreservedly to you.
That was just *funny*, I don't care who you are...
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
Posted on 07/02/2010 6:56:08 PM PDT by Desdemona
That's wonderful news!
So you KNOW you're saved! Not going to be, ARE!
Don't start your victory lap too soon. Your salvation is not assured until the moment of your death. You still have plenty of opportunities to blow it through, among other things, bearing false witness against your Catholic brothers and sisters, and an overall lack of beatitude in you "deeds".
It wasn't a victory lap, trust me. And your post shows it clearly. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a person cannot bear false witness against someone who is bearing false witness. Your witness of salvation not being assured until the moment of your death is a great example.
And you can "love" all you want. your love gets you nowhere, except praise in the eyes of men. It's Christ's love FOR YOU and your accepting what He did FOR YOU, and realizing there is nothing you can add to HIS FINISHED WORK that gives you the only opportunity you have in your life to be saved. It either saves you or condemns you. I know that doesn't sound very "beatitude" driven, but sometimes the truth hurts. Before it saves.
You are free to follow the traditions of Geneva. I will continue to follow the Good News.
That would be the "Holy C".
Point goes unreservedly to you.
That was just *funny*, I don't care who you are...
It is simply a division of labor in a large organization, common to any one such.
The atmosphere of sexual depravity rampant in late 20c following the legitimization of contraception and combined with the notion that a pastor can style his ministry and his personal theology in any way his heart or, perhaps, some other organ dictates -- is directly atributable to the Protestant heresies, yes.
I am simply pointing out that a bishop, once installed, receives a very wide lattitude in how he administers his diocese. In the case of several latently homosexual bishops it proved unfortunate.
Note please, that the strict control from Rome that you correctly say was lacking during John Paul II pontificate is the exact opposite of Protestant ecclesiology, which produced the same rate of abuse but rarely faces the consequences of it.
but rarely faces the consequences of it.
I have observed that to be thoroughly inaccurate.
Whatever the defects of Protestantism the original Reformational view, one of the great ideals of the United States, is that of personal responsibility. A concept apparently foreign to Romanists.
Of course by “Romanists”, one refers to those who can read called Catholics.
Another great American concept is that of justice. This refers to those being accused actually being found guilty, prior to them taking responsibility and facing consequences.
Some never tire of putting on their elitist airs. Of course our country is surrounded by leftists who prance about demanding the folk subject themselves to their superiority.
Then there are those who have never quite gotten over the demise of the Holy Roman Empire. They too would have the folk subject themselves to their better despotism.
Then there is the story of America where the folk free from despotism are able to use their liberty to produce a society of the folk, by the folk, and for the folk.
Elitists just can’t stand that notion.
A rare deflection.
Must have hit a nerve. Goose and gander and all of that.
Do you suppose the many "Romanists" who have sacrificed their (human) existence, (Jeanne d'Arc, the apostles Paul and Peter, for examples), were not exercising personal responsibility?
I'll refer you to a book, you may or may not read it, yet if you do then you would better understand the Roman-Catholic Church as well as the Church's, thus God's, position on other denominations.
Catholic Matters by Richard John Neuhaus
You might be surprised at many of the insightful revelations put forth from the erstwhile Lutheran.
How can something be a deflection off of that which is vacuous?
I’m well aware of the Romanists ubiquitous ownership claims.
I’ll give you Jeanne.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I just wish there were more Lord Acton followers.
Care to elaborate?
Of course. It was a Catholic ideal before there was a United States. Catholicism is all about free will, good works, and doing penance for bad ones, for starters. You don't rattle off a profession of faith and consider yourself "saved".
lol. Darn tootin! You gotta work for it.
Never mind that contradicts the word of God.
That if thou shalt confess thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." -- Romans 10:8-9"The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Was Paul preaching another Gospel? Was Paul wrong? Because he didn't qualify that statement. Nor did Christ.
"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36
God willing, Roman Catholics will read the Bible and realize that a needlessly complicated, arrogantly corrupt bureaucracy is leading them away from Christ.
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