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To: stfassisi; Quix
This is a false teaching because the ark was a type of Christ

What the Ark CONTAINED was a type of Christ-The Ark is a type of Mary. Christ did not birth Himself,dear Sister

No the entire ark was a type of Christ... The wood you want to make Mary was shittim wood that used in the construction of the Ark has always been viewed as a type of Christ's human nature (John 1:14). It points to the condescension of Christ in coming in the form of a man (Isaiah 53:2).

Unless it is mary that gives mercy ( which I think many Catholics do believe.). the mercy seat would not sit on top her..

The wood representing Christ' humanity held in it Him as fulfillment of the law and the prophets and priests ..It also held the manna that points to Jesus as fulfillment of the type of manna

That is where the High Priest splashed the blood for forgiveness...You guys have Jesus INSIDE the ark...and yet Mercy was found a top it..

The entire ark was a type of Christ, Catholics are just desperate to make scripture about her instead of Christ

The church fathers were not infallible
And you are? They lived closer to Christ than you did and many gave their lives for Christianity. Who in their right mind would believe someone who sits on FR and cannot back up many of their beliefs with historical consistent writings?

I make no claim of infallibility, that is why I appeal to the scriptures that are infallible

Who in their right mind accepts on faith the words of fallible, often spiritually confused men that disagreed with each other on many many matters.

That disagreement meant some now faceless man had to decide which to quote where to make their point sound true.

Who would ever take the word of men on anything when Gods word stands as the measuring rod of truth?

All I ask is show using the scriptures where Jesus or any of the apostles said Mary was sinless..
There is lots of Typology on this all backed up with the Early Church Fathers

As I thought you have NONE .. your "typology" is as faulty as the use of the ark ...It is all smoke and mirrors and without substance. Once again you trust the words of men ...

John the baptist leaped in the womb because of Jesus..the new King

You are reading into what Elizabeth said what you want it to mean and nothing more

Do you know what happened that the ark stayed at that house for 3 months?

2 samuel:6 6And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it. 7And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God. 8And David was displeased, because the LORD had made a breach upon Uzzah: and he called the name of the place Perezuzzah to this day. 9And David was afraid of the LORD that day, and said, How shall the ark of the LORD come to me? 10So David would not remove the ark of the LORD unto him into the city of David: but David carried it aside into the house of Obededom the Gittite. 11And the ark of the LORD continued in the house of Obededom the Gittite three months: and the LORD blessed Obededom, and all his household.

It was not a "respite ...CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT

Unless some one touched mary and then dropped dead..it is a lousy .faulty context

Luke 1:43 / 2 Sam. 6:9 - How can the Mother / Ark of the Lord come to me? It is a holy privilege. Our Mother wants to come to us and lead us to Jesus.

LOL read the above Scripture..David was not being holy and saying I am not worthy as Elizabeth said.. He was fearful and did not know how to PHYSICALLY bring the ark to Himself..

That kind of false teaching comes from NOT reading the verse for CONTEXT CONTEX CONTEXT

Catholics trust men instead of the reliability of Gods word and what happens is heretical error as we see above

725 posted on 05/02/2010 10:30:42 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix

Not only that “ark” has a meaning of “coffin”, “tomb”,etc and so we see when opened, the ark is empty. If they want Mary to be a tomb, so be it.


727 posted on 05/02/2010 10:57:54 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: RnMomof7

Your beliefs are gnostic since they cannot be measured throughout Christian history like consistently understood Scripture interpretations.

Join the club of another modernist scripture interpreter who elevates themselves above what many Holy Saints and Martyrs write.

Pride is a blinding,dear Sister!


731 posted on 05/02/2010 11:39:59 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: RnMomof7

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

The following sure sounds like many of the Roman Catholics et al:

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cannot back up many of their beliefs with historical consistent writings?


790 posted on 05/02/2010 3:16:15 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: RnMomof7

Who in their right mind accepts on faith the words of fallible, often spiritually confused men that disagreed with each other on many many matters.

= = =

INDEED TO THE MAX.


871 posted on 05/02/2010 7:54:19 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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