That is what's done ,dear sister. The Church thoroughly investigates a miracle before one is declared
Having a vision or visitation of Mary to make a declaration like about the immaculate conception, to verify a catholic doctrine, is just a little too convenient for comfort.
The Immaculate conception can be traced back to the early Church
Here are examples
"He was the ark formed of incorruptible wood. For by this is signified that His tabernacle was exempt from putridity and corruption." Hippolytus, Orations Inillud, Dominus pascit me (ante A.D. 235).
"This Virgin Mother of the Only-begotten of God, is called Mary, worthy of God, immaculate of the immaculate, one of the one." Origen, Homily 1(A.D. 244).
"Let woman praise Her, the pure Mary." Ephraim, Hymns on the Nativity, 15:23 (A.D. 370).
"Thou alone and thy Mother are in all things fair, there is no flaw in thee and no stain in thy Mother." Ephraem, Nisibene Hymns, 27:8 (A.D. 370).
"O noble Virgin, truly you are greater than any other greatness. For who is your equal in greatness, O dwelling place of God the Word? To whom among all creatures shall I compare you, O Virgin? You are greater than them all O Covenant, clothed with purity instead of gold! You are the Ark in which is found the golden vessel containing the true manna, that is, the flesh in which divinity resides." Athanasius, Homily of the Papyrus of Turin, 71:216 (ante AD 373).
"Mary, a Virgin not only undefiled but a Virgin whom grace has made inviolate, free of every stain of sin." Ambrose, Sermon 22:30 (A.D. 388).
"We must except the Holy Virgin Mary, concerning whom I wish to raise no question when it touches the subject of sins, out of honour to the Lord; for from Him we know what abundance of grace for overcoming sin in every particular was conferred upon her who had the merit to conceive and bear Him who undoubtedly had no sin." Augustine, Nature and Grace,4 2[36] (A.D.415).
"As he formed her without my stain of her own, so He proceeded from her contracting no stain." Proclus of Constantinople, Homily 1 (ante A.D. 446).
"A virgin, innocent, spotless, free of all defect, untouched, unsullied, holy in soul and body, like a lily sprouting among thorns." Theodotus of Ancrya, Homily VI:11(ante A.D. 446).
"The angel took not the Virgin from Joseph, but gave her to Christ, to whom she was pledged from Joseph, but gave her to Christ, to whom she was pledged in the womb, when she was made." Peter Chrysologus, Sermon 140 (A.D. 449).
No Scripture.
Nothing from the Gospels.
Therefore, not true.
Any such statements by church “doctors” or “fathers” must be measured against the Scriptures since even before the last of the apostles were dead apostates were arising from within the Christian community. Paul, Peter, and John had warned of this happening.
She did not say..INVESTIGATE she said held up to scripture . That is very different standard
The Immaculate conception can be traced back to the early Church
Here are examples
"THe was the ark formed of incorruptible wood. For by this is signified that His tabernacle was exempt from putridity and corruption." Hippolytus, Orations Inillud, Dominus pascit me (ante A.D. 235).
First of all that is almost 300 years after Christ, it is not contemporary. 2) This is a false teaching because the ark was a type of Christ , not Mary 3) The church fathers were not infallible and often were at odds or disagreed on doctrine among themselves . Reading this quote makes me wonder about the salvation of the author to be honest
"This Virgin Mother of the Only-begotten of God, is called Mary, worthy of God, immaculate of the immaculate, one of the one." Origen, Homily 1(A.D. 244).
And Origin was called a heretic by many Catholics on some doctrine . Notice he did not here, speak of her CONCEPTION or her spiritual condition..He may have been speaking f the conception of Jesus being immaculate
All I ask is show using the scriptures where Jesus or any of the apostles said Mary was sinless..
All of the quotes are made by fallible men .