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When you sin you not only have offended God but your sin has stained fellow man as well who might for example react bitterly towards others as a result of your sin

Waaayyyy to close to the "disruption in the FORCE" talk for my tastes. Smells alot like karma, too. ICK!

So tell me, how does one's suffering in "purgatory" benefit either the deceased - who can no longer make amends in the physical world - or those who have had their "windows" broken that remain? Forgiveness goes both ways.

stf-When you sin you not only have offended God but your sin has stained fellow man as well who might for example react bitterly towards others as a result of your sin

BB-Waaayyyy to close to the "disruption in the FORCE" talk for my tastes. Smells alot like karma, too. ICK!

Nonsense Dear Sister! I guess this means you don't think the sins of Adam and Eve had an effect on others than? We see this theme throughout the Bible

When someone asks God for forgiveness of sins they should also being doing penance for the sin that has added to the sins of mankind effecting others and disturbance of nature that comes with sin. Penance can be giving up something you really enjoy and using that time for prayer for the harm you caused by sin.

Why would anyone have problem with that?

how does one's suffering in "purgatory" benefit either the deceased - who can no longer make amends in the physical world

They can make amends for those living in the physical world by praying for them while in purgatory and those in the physical world can help those in purgatory by praying for souls in purgatory.

Once you understand that heaven is perfection than you will understand that you can't get there until the "last penny is paid back"(Matt 5:26)- meaning temporal punishment for sin

So tell me, how does one's suffering in "purgatory" benefit either the deceased -

You lost me. If you're "in purgatory" you're deceased.

who can no longer make amends in the physical world - or those who have had their "windows" broken that remain?

making up for the hurt I did YOU when I sinned against you is not (To my understanding, could be wrong) part of purgation. I shoulda got you a window before I croaked -- or you could have filed a claim against my estate.(and REALLY good luck with THAT after the dear leader gets a hold of estate taxes ...)

Again, I go with the therapeutic model. Sin not only affects my relationship with God and with you, but it affects ME. Sin is BAD for me. It's not just "forensic." Lying can so easily become a habit. Steam-rolling over polite and diffident people is so easy to do without noticing. if I've done those things a lot I need help with Truth, probably courage,and charity and selflessness. I expect purgatory to be the means whereby God cures my leftover sinfulness after I croak.

Forgiveness goes both ways.

Sorry.I'm not getting this.