The Pharaoh's magicians were just magicians that caused illusions -so they did not produce a TRUE miracle.
According to whom?
We could argue about the meaning of "by their enchantments" forever, as the term has a wide meaning in the original tongue... But Moses' rod (snake) ate the others - One would suppose we can't have a mixed result. Either Moses' (God's) miracle was but an enchantment (like the others), or both were physical... How does something physical "eat" an illusion? Or are we going to subscribe to the idea that the whole episode was metaphor and allegory?
No, it seems rather sure that God's miracle through Moses defeated the miracle performed by the minions of Satan (Pharaoh's magi), else there would be no need for the eating. One could just walk over and pass a hand through the illusion to prove it false, then and there. Contest over.
We agree on this,but we also do not give the devil and demons credit for things he is not capable of doing, beside the devil gets the most out of temptation anyway. (emphasis mine)
Oh, I don't know, but I think our adversary gets alot of mileage out of lying signs wonders... Like those pointing to Hindu deities, Islamic Allah, LDS gold plates, the goddess of heaven shtick (including "Mary"), and the rest of the pantheistic mystery religion ... Add in far eastern ancestor worship, and one has a grip on 90% of the world.
Lying wonders are wonders nonetheless, just pointing to a lie.
Christ's Testimony is the Spirit of Prophecy, [...]
Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
(e-Sword:KJV)
[...] so the whole of the Word and the Prophets encompasses Christ's testimony - If the lying spirit removes the focus from that sure foundation, even by an iota, it cannot be true, regardless of the "miracle."
Imagine JOHN, of all people, being overwhelmed enough to bow down before an angel! The demons are every bit the same in constitution (if not character) as angels of light - After all, they are the same species. A very sobering thought, indeed.
2Co 11:12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
More From the late FR Hardon...
I have no need of men's words at this time. I find it tiresome that they continue to be foisted into the conversation.
See there, old Moses was a snake handler from way back, no need to feel insulted anymore
Great points.
Thx.
“”How does something physical “eat” an illusion?””
Very simple -Magicians make things appear and dissipear all the time or make something look realthat not even there. Only God can produce a TRUE Miracle and that’s why the pharisees committed unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit by attributing Christ’s miracles to the work of the devil;-The pharisees were the theoligians of their day and they knew perfectly well that ONLY God can produce a real miracle-that’s why they committed unpardonable sin
... And by the way no is arguing against the Miracle of Moses-it was the work of God-not Moses
As Blessed Saint Padre Pio used to say when people thanked him for the many miracles in their lives ..Saint Pio would always say...”Thank God for those Miracles,I performed no miracles,it was God who did that -all I did was pray for you”
Enjoy your defense of the devil,it’s very telling by the other comments you make