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To: metmom; MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
While the Catholic church denies in words, as the FRoman Catholics do, that it worships Mary, since they attribute to her all the characteristics of God, give her the same titles that Christ and Christ alone is worthy to bear, and make statues of her to put in their churches to pray to her, yes, in fact they are worshiping her.
Take Mary out of a Catholic Church and watch what happens.

I do not think most Catholics can see the depth of their devotion to Mary is as strong or stronger than it is to Christ. They just take all the prayers and devotions and novenas and the rosaries and the traditions (like the ave maria and the bride dedicating herself to Mary) , and the May crowning as part of their faith..they do not consider the energy and time they devote to her as opposed to the time and energy they give Christ..

As a Catholic I denied I worshiped Mary, it is only retrospectively I can see that there was no difference in the time or devotion between her and God

I think it starts with the TJTM at the top of papers in Catholic schools (to Jesus THROUGH Mary)..then there is the rosary you get with your 1st communion kit ..and the honor of crowing mary in your first communion outfit ...it is just ingrafted into Catholic kids so it seems right.. and the church names it veneration ... so to you thats what it is, even though the time spent on her steals time from Christ

1,098 posted on 05/03/2010 10:12:52 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

My son, although but a fallible human, does not see honor paid to me as stealing honor from him. Honoring my husband does not mean I do not honor Christ. Honoring a parent’s teaching is not demeaning Christ.


1,099 posted on 05/03/2010 10:16:04 AM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: RnMomof7
Very well said.

Especially that last part of the last line.

.... even though the time spent on her steals time from Christ

1,189 posted on 05/03/2010 12:21:38 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RnMomof7

I do not think most Catholics can see the depth of their devotion to Mary is as strong or stronger than it is to Christ. They just take all the prayers and devotions and novenas and the rosaries and the traditions (like the ave maria and the bride dedicating herself to Mary) , and the May crowning as part of their faith..they do not consider the energy and time they devote to her as opposed to the time and energy they give Christ..

As a Catholic I denied I worshiped Mary, it is only retrospectively I can see that there was no difference in the time or devotion between her and God

I think it starts with the TJTM at the top of papers in Catholic schools (to Jesus THROUGH Mary)..then there is the rosary you get with your 1st communion kit ..and the honor of crowing mary in your first communion outfit ...it is just ingrafted into Catholic kids so it seems right.. and the church names it veneration ... so to you thats what it is, even though the time spent on her steals time from Christ

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As an outsider looking in, THAT’S PRECISELY what I’ve observed.

Thx. I think many Roman Catholics et al could profit from prayerfully pondering your words above.


1,218 posted on 05/03/2010 12:55:56 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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