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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Dutchboy88
At heart, RCs are inconsistent universalists.

Pour a tall glass of this:

Who, then, can be saved?

Catholics can be saved if they believe the Word of God as taught by the Church and if they obey the commandments.
Other Christians can be saved if they submit their lives to Christ and join the community where they think he wills to be found.
Jews can be saved if they look forward in hope to the Messiah and try to ascertain whether God’s promise has been fulfilled.
Adherents of other religions can be saved if, with the help of grace, they sincerely seek God and strive to do his will.
Even atheists can be saved if they worship God under some other name and place their lives at the service of truth and justice.

God’s saving grace, channeled through Christ the one Mediator, leaves no one unassisted. But that same grace brings obligations to all who receive it. They must not receive the grace of God in vain. Much will be demanded of those to whom much is given.
-- concluding paragraph [formatting mine] of Who Can Be Saved?,by Cardinal Avery Dulles, found at Catholic Education Resource Center.

Add two heaping tablespoons of this:

No Salvation Outside the Church
The “Necessity” of Being Catholic (Ecumenical Caucus)
Can Non-Catholics Be Saved?
The Great Heresies [Open]
Why Can't Protestants Take Communion in a Catholic Church

And serve shaken, not stirred:
THEOLOGICAL PLURALISM: The multiplicity of theological positions present within the Catholic Church. These positions vary according to which premises or postulates are used in reflecting on the sources of revelation, according to the methodology employed, and according to the cultural tradition within which theology does its speculation. On the first bases, the two principal philosophical premises are the Platonic, stressed in Augustinianaism; and the Aristotelian, emphasized in Thomism. On the second level, theologies differ in terms of their mainly biblical, or doctrinal, or historical, or pastoral methodology. And on the third basis, the culture of a people helps to shape the theology they develop, as between the more mystical East and the more practical West, or the more reflective Mediterranean and the more scientific Anglo-Saxon. The Church not only permits these diversities but encourages them, always assuming that theologians who are Catholic are also respectful of the rule of faith and obedient to the magisterium of the hierarchy under the Bishop of Rome.
-- from the thread Catholic Word of the Day: THEOLOGICAL PLURALISM, 11-10-09

50 posted on 05/10/2010 3:15:57 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Pretentiousness is so beneath me.)
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To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; fish hawk; Marysecretary; metmom
"At heart, RCs are inconsistent universalists.

Pour a tall glass of this:

And serve shaken, not stirred:

THEOLOGICAL PLURALISM: The multiplicity of theological positions present within the Catholic Church. These positions vary according to which premises or postulates are used in reflecting on the sources of revelation, according to the methodology employed, and according to the cultural tradition within which theology does its speculation."

Bomb! James Bomb.

53 posted on 05/10/2010 3:39:58 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Alex Murphy; Dutchboy88; fish hawk; RnMomof7; blue-duncan; 1000 silverlings; Quix; Forest Keeper; ..
Absolutely astounding. The RCC not only believes these lies; it teaches these lies.

"...Even atheists can be saved if they worship God under some other name and place their lives at the service of truth and justice" -- "Who Can Be Saved?" by Cardinal Avery Dulles

"Some other name???"

" Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be save" -- Acts 4:12

Jesus Christ is all "truth and justice," so what in the world is Rome talking about? Are they all liars or merely ignorant?

"The multiplicity of theological positions present within the Catholic Church. These positions vary according to which premises or postulates are used in reflecting on the sources of revelation"

LOL. The RCC works to be all things to all people; therefore it becomes nothing.

Christian particularism has always been the target. Too bad the church in Rome is playing for the other team.

And considering the cardinal's very peculiar pedigree, and the fact he turned his back on the truth when he converted, who knows what his agenda really was/is?

54 posted on 05/10/2010 4:04:35 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Alex Murphy; Dutchboy88; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix
Roman Catholicism, with it's own pantheon of gods* needs to be pluralistic to survive.

They pray to saints, asking for mercy, assign God's attributes to Mary** and violate God's commandments in ways to numerous to count.

Their behavior is really no different than Eve's in the garden when she added to what God said.

*Little g
**If she is watching she is no doubt weeping because her Son's sacrifice cheapened/demeaned to such a large degree.

65 posted on 05/10/2010 11:19:22 PM PDT by Gamecock (If you want Your Best Life Now, follow Osteen. If you want your best life forever, don't. JM)
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