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Pedophilia Only a Catholic Sin?
nolanchart.com ^ | August 14th, 2009 | Kevin Roeten

Posted on 04/04/2010 6:04:36 AM PDT by bronxville

Pedophilia Only a Catholic Sin?

It turns out pedophilia is an incorrect term, and Catholics aren't responsible for most of it.

Shockingly, AP breaks out of their typical liberal mold and reports Insurance companies shed light on extent of sex abuse in Protestant churches, that sexual abuse of minors has been rampant. But in their statement, they indirectly say members of the Catholic Church are not the majority abusers.

AP discusses the raw numbers from three companies that insure the majority of protestant churches in America (Church Mutual, Guide One, and Brotherhood Mutual), and typically receive 260 reports/yr of people under 18 being sexually abused. Compare that with ~228 credible accusations/yr against Catholic clerics since 1950 (documented abuse records).

Together with that information, it is known that the Catholic Church greatly outnumbers any specific Protestant denomination, and the data for Protestant churches is available only for the last seven years. Ever since the first sexual abuse cases had been reported, Catholics have had requirements: 1) police background check done on all volunteers--including priests, 2) a second person be present at all religious functions, and 3) all personnel involved with minors must take routine checks with "Protecting God's Children".

Without a doubt, sexual abuse of a minor is one of the most despicable crimes and sins that man can perpetrate. But predators seem to thrive in an atmosphere where the base congregation is one of the most trusted organizations that exist.

Philip Jenkins, in his 1996 book Pedophiles and Priests, [[link edited for length]], looked at the problem objectively and dispassionately. Jenkins (who is not Catholic) found that true pedophilia is extremely rare, and perhaps more common among Protestant clergy, and is even more common among married laymen.

He found that in most sexual abuse cases (under the age of consent), the behavior is actually a variety of homosexuality. This sexual attraction with very young men that combine the charm of boyishness with sexual maturity is actually called ephebophilia. Pedophilia is really a psychiatric term meaning sexual interest in children below the age of puberty.

Even a book review by William A. Donahue [Review: Pedophiles and Priests] reveals how accurate Jenkins is in his observations over the years. Deal Hudson makes 10 valid points about priestly pedophilia [link edited for length] no one should overlook.

True pedophilia (Leon Podles/ Clergy Sexual Misconduct: Just a Catholic Problem?) occurs most often within families. Celibacy removes most Catholic priests from those types of temptations, and clergy in churches that do not require celibacy have the same (if not worse) problems.

But it has been a media target for any child abuse. More so because many enjoy 'shooting down' something they believe to be "holier than thou". But the Episcopal Church has a comparable problem, and some of the worst abuse cases have been in fundamentalist and Pentecostal churches [[link edited for length]].

Up until the AP report, comprehensive studies were only done on the Catholic Church. The rate for school teachers, residential home-counselors, social workers, or even scoutmasters, never existed because they had no method of accounting for sexual abuse. But the recent AP investigation found more than 2,500 cases over five years in which educators were punished for actions from bizarre to sadistic. (Jacoby/Townhall) rightly states the same sort of outcry that came with Catholic sexual abuse has not existed with public school teachers.

It seems obvious that the legit but skewed condemnation of the Catholic Church is likely coming from the devil, himself. It's only logical his first and sometimes only, victim would be the church with the correct answers.

The problem of sexual abuse seems much bigger than the public will admit. And abuse from church organizations seems to be the minority. Reported sexual abuse seems only the tip of the iceberg. As despicable as Catholic abuse is, it is no where near just a Catholic problem. And finally, it seems as though the public has the wrong impression of who's responsible for accusations of ephebophilia.

And they don't seem to be able to know the differences in phobias, either.

Kevin Roeten can be reached at roetenks@charter.net


TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: educationdepartment; eucationdepartment; homosexuality; homosexuals; pedophilia; protestants; teachers
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AP discusses the raw numbers from three companies that insure the majority of protestant churches in America (Church Mutual, Guide One, and Brotherhood Mutual), and typically receive 260 reports/year of people under 18 being sexually abused.

Compare that with ~228 credible accusations/year against Catholic clerics since 1950 (documented abuse records).

Together with that information, it is known that the Catholic Church greatly outnumbers any specific Protestant denomination, and the data for Protestant churches is available only for the last seven years.

Ever since the first sexual abuse cases had been reported, Catholics have had requirements: 1) police background check done on all volunteers--including priests, 2) a second person be present at all religious functions, and 3) all personnel involved with minors must take routine checks with "Protecting God's Children".

Because it's not reported on doesn't mean it's not happening. And please note Pastor's can marry.

1 posted on 04/04/2010 6:04:36 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville

It just makes me sick how they sugar coat and cover up for the “safe school czar” Pedophile in Chief Kevin Jennings and yet will call for the Catholic Church to be tore apart for the same thing.


2 posted on 04/04/2010 6:10:33 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine
No doubt Jenkins is not a Catholic priest.
3 posted on 04/04/2010 6:18:45 AM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: bronxville

“Pedophilia Only a Catholic Sin? “

No. Keeping priests with problems as priests, while covering up the sin is the problem.

Destruction of young lives wherever (in any church or organization) it occurs is the problem.

Covering it up and allowing those who fall to stay by rotating them to new ministries is the moral failure of the church and a PR nightmare.

It is a blot on the Catholic Church - just as it would be on any other kind of church.

ampu


4 posted on 04/04/2010 6:19:20 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: bronxville

It’s because too many protestant churches and none of the public schools are pro abortion.


5 posted on 04/04/2010 6:27:39 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: autumnraine

Agree - I just read an article on the Teacher homo-pedo stats and meant to post it as well. Will do a search later.

We have our enemies without but also within who want femi-nazi priests - if they can’t get their way then the next best thing is to try and shut us down because we won’t change dogma therefore won’t join their moral relativist American Universal Church (something the Chinese Government instituted). These people work for Soros/Podesta - American Progress etc., and on that stance alone they gain mainline access to the NYSlimes etc. Not unlike the anti-Tea Partiers who also have state-controlled media access - proven recently by our great bloggers who time-lined the whole thing including huffpo tweets to the McClatchy state-controlled outfit who went with their report. We need to realize that we’re ALL targets and in it together which is why I posted this thread. If I thought for one second we were permitting such atrocities I’d be outraged but it’s been throroughly investigated and taken care of for years. Pravda put it in balance with their report last week. Interesting that one now depends on Pravda over our own media to report the truth with facts to back it up.


6 posted on 04/04/2010 6:28:53 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Righto.

No evidence I’ve seen shows the rates of such cover-up, and indeed conspiracy to allow/commit further crimes/sins for other organizations.

Those Catholics who say other organizations have also had problems with pedophiles/ephebophiles are correct but missing the point. It’s the coverup, not the crime that is the problem.


7 posted on 04/04/2010 6:31:35 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: bronxville
The 800 lb michelle in the corner is they are exclusively homo crimes against children.

The ENEMEDIA will scream Catholic and Christian at the top of their lungs. However they will never admit it is purely a deviant homo SSD mental illness causing a supreme majority almost 100% of these crimes of hatred towards the innocent.

Matt and Trey, are ya listening?

8 posted on 04/04/2010 6:34:21 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you," O " you most proud, said the said the Lord GOD of hosts)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

See this Pravda investigative report for some balance - http://english.pravda.ru/print/society/sex/112790-to_confuse_wood_with_trees-0

Do you always believe what the NYSlimes, Daily Kos, DU, American Progress etc., report?

FYI: This thread is actually about Protestant Pastors and their Insurance Statistics on child molestation’s.


9 posted on 04/04/2010 6:36:29 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; HarleyD
AP discusses the raw numbers from three companies that insure the majority of protestant churches in America (Church Mutual, Guide One, and Brotherhood Mutual), and typically receive 260 reports/yr of people under 18 being sexually abused. Compare that with ~228 credible accusations/yr against Catholic clerics since 1950 (documented abuse records).

That's because that Catholic church shuffles molesting priests around as opposed to Proddie offenders having to own up to their sin.

What do you call a Roman Catholic cleric who molests children? Father
What do you call a Protestant clergyman who molests children? An inmate.

10 posted on 04/04/2010 6:36:41 AM PDT by Gamecock (If you want Your Best Life Now, follow Osteen. If you want your best life forever, don't. JM)
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To: Sherman Logan

My question has always been why were the police not involved. What made Bishops and Cardinals think this was a Church matter that could be handled in house? How brain washed must a parent be to allow a priest to do that?


11 posted on 04/04/2010 6:37:40 AM PDT by csmusaret (Sarah Palin thinks everyday in America is the 4th of July. Obama thinks it is April 15th.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Yes, there’s a name for homo-pedophilia but I can’t remember it at the moment.


12 posted on 04/04/2010 6:37:50 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: Sherman Logan

YOu’re missing the point by believing what they state-run media are telling you. Why only on this specific story do you believe them?

Read reponse postings here or the Pravda report link above - otherwise one might say it’s hypocritical to not believe the LSM for their conservative tales yet believe them only when they’re gunning for the Catholic Church -
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2486382/posts


13 posted on 04/04/2010 6:43:49 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: csmusaret

Read the threads posted or rely on the NYSlimes reporting. Your choice!


14 posted on 04/04/2010 6:44:56 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: autumnraine

It isn’t the same thing. The problem in the schools is over 100 times worses, which is why the Dept. of Education cancelled a definite study of this a few years ago. The preliminary results were so bad that the Bush administration bureaucrats didn’t want any more light shown on the problem.


15 posted on 04/04/2010 6:45:07 AM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: csmusaret

In (less than whole-hearted) defense of the Church, at the time it was largely viewed as a sin on the part of the priest and was handled accordingly. Not as a sin/crime against the child and society. This viewpoint of child abuse was not limited to the Church at the time. The effect on the child was often not taken seriously.

The parents in these cases, when they even knew about them, were most often asked to keep things quiet to “protect the Church.” Which was of course the absolute worst possible thing they could have done, in the long run, to protect the Church.


16 posted on 04/04/2010 6:46:00 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: rawcatslyentist
they are exclusively homo crimes against children.

Not exclusively. 90%+, sure.

17 posted on 04/04/2010 6:47:05 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: bronxville

Other people do it also is not a valid defense.

Especially by those claiming to be God’s representatives on earth.

“Whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believed in me, it were better for him that millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”

A higher authority, IMO, than insurance companies or Pravda.


18 posted on 04/04/2010 6:50:11 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: csmusaret

PREACHER PREDATORS: INVESTIGATING CHILD SEX ABUSE IN THE PROTESTANT CHURCH

Child sex abuse by Catholic priests has been headline news in recent years, but is the same abuse happening within Protestant churches? In a six-month investigation, ABC News’ ‘20/20’ found preacher predators in every corner of the country, including several affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) — the largest Protestant denomination.

ABC New’s Jim Avila’s reporting finds that the SBC, an organization of 43,000 independent churches and 16.3 million members, has an overall structure that makes it difficult to police preacher predators. One example includes a profile of an SBC pastor who abused kids in Kentucky and then moved on to do the same to eight boys in Missouri, before he was finally sent to prison. In an interview with Avila, the SBC president concedes that there is a problem with tracking predators.

‘20/20’ lists numerous SBC preachers who have been convicted or charged with child sex abuse, including pastors still identified on the SBC’s own website or ordained ministers. Jim interviews a preacher who admits that, in his jobs as Southern Baptist preacher and teacher in East Texas, he molested more than 40 boys. For the first time, Ken Ward speaks publicly about how he manipulated families and churches as he targeted and molested children in his care, and how the church is actually a magnet for predators. ‘I wanted them to love me and that was part of the strategy,’ says Ward. He also gives insight to parents about how to spot a predator.
http://abcnewsstore.go.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/DSIProductDisplay?catalogId=11002&storeId=20051&productId=2000921&langId=-1&categoryId=100020

???

FYI - this thread is about Protestant Pastor child molestors...


19 posted on 04/04/2010 6:51:30 AM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville

There is a very strong anti Catholic group on Freeper. There is nothing , not facts, not rational arguments, that will get through to them.

When it comes to Catholcism, these posters behave Exactly like Libs: Attack the messenger, change the discussion, keep repating the same talking points over and over and over.Ignore reality, ignore research.

It really doesn’t even matter WHAt the topic is...look out if you post something Catholic.

With Christian friends like this, who needs the NYT and AP and the commie Left and secularists?

thanks for making the valiant effort to “speak truth to Maroons.” ha.!


20 posted on 04/04/2010 6:52:24 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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