Posted on 03/06/2010 8:56:11 AM PST by ZGuy
1. If the world's greatest teachers (Hawking, etc.) offered to teach thousands at a time via holograms of their lectures, would you say "No, it's wrong. They must be limited to live lectures only and everyone else must be happy to settle for second-best."?
2. Measure by their fruit. If this leads to more people accepting Christ, would you be comfortable standing before God and saying "I chose to limit our outreach methods and allow thousands of people to go to hell who could have been saved because I didn't feel comfortable with using methods that weren't around when I grew up"?
3. The epistles (prior to being included in the canon--and even those that weren't included in the canon) were circulated and read among the churches immediately after they were written, thus they were the equivalent of using holograms today--they were the state-of-the-art method for spreading the lessons of the greatest and most respected "teachers" to audiences that couldn't see them in person.
4. The "lack of fellowship" argument is a strawman. In churches that use remote venues, Christians gather by the hundreds or more and have "live" services with worship, giving, announcements, communion, prayer, and all of the features of a regular service with the only exception being that they hear biblical teaching for 30 minutes or so via a video feed. It is not hundreds of people gathering in a theater to "watch a movie" of a service for an hour and a half in their own little isolated world, sitting quietly with their hands in their laps not singing, talking, or praying with anyone.
5. It doesn't appeal to me at all! But I will support evangelistic methods outside of my comfort zone if people are being saved by them who otherwise would not have been reached.
“What you save them with is what you save them to.”
Holographic politicians are not far behind.
How about a holographic Obama delivering the State of the Union address?
Take me to the Holo-deck with Catherine Zeta Jones
“...And you have meddled with the primal forces of theology and YOU WILL ATONE!
“...Am I getting through to you, Bishop Spong?”
Think of it as setting up a brick-and-mortar for couch potatoes.
Attendance numbers and "more people accepting Christ" are not synonymous.
What next, rap music and laser shows?
Back to basics. Attending Church should feel Holy, not like attending a concert. But these are my opinions. I learned long ago I am in the minority.
All to say; we can just prepare for Obama hologram presence. This 'empty suit' will be enhanced and will creep out the 'reason capable' and seduce his 'kool-aid' drinking disciples. No doubt. . .
“Attendance numbers and “more people accepting Christ” are not synonymous.”
Neither are the exclusive.
What gives you a better chance of saving someone? getting them to a church or ignoring them while they sit on the sofa nursing a hangover.
I didn't say they were.
There really is no earthly way to measure the effectiveness of attendance numbers on saving souls. To claim a net increase by pop culture Church methods ignores those turned away by the same methods.
We need both kinds of Churches to give both kinds of people (traditional and pop culture) to give all kinds of people a place to go. This is not what is happening. All Churches are trending toward pop culture. That is bad.
“To claim a net increase by pop culture Church methods ignores those turned away by the same methods.”
And thats why different churches can use different methods.
“All Churches are trending toward pop culture. That is bad.”
I think thats an overly broad statement, regardless getting people into church is a good start.
I don't, I have left several Churches looking for others after the first started dumping traditional services.
You say different churches "can" use different methods. This is true, but when you are on the third and forth church that is changing to attract different audiences than what they already have, it seems as if different churches are trending toward using the same methods.
I really don't want to debate too much, I've tired of the debate over the years. I just wanted to pipe up and say there is a different viewpoint on the issue that is brushed aside these days.
can holographic money be donated?
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Kinda makes me wonder...
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The Resurrection is a actual event..
Maybe this just sheds some light of GOD’s Physics
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