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To: blue-duncan
Since God makes the rules, doesn’t his omniscience then have a deterministic component to it?

No. Knowledge is not causation.

God can’t intervene in history since that intervention could be construed as “causation”; again, history is just a rerun.

I never said He can't intervene. Scripture and history are full of instances where He has intervened. Note what's missing though--His forcing people to make decisions He wants. He persuades, He talks, He smites (in the OT), but He never forces someone to change their mind.

Also note that I am NOT saying He is unable to do this. I am claiming that He is unwilling to do this. Big difference.

History is not "just a rerun." We need to make these decisions on our own--so that we KNOW we are responsible. This is not for His benefit--it's for ours.

173 posted on 03/02/2010 8:52:04 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

“I never said He can’t intervene. Scripture and history are full of instances where He has intervened. Note what’s missing though—His forcing people to make decisions He wants. He persuades, He talks, He smites (in the OT), but He never forces someone to change their mind.”

What about Paul?


174 posted on 03/02/2010 9:00:49 AM PST by blue-duncan
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