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To: thefrankbaum
Tell me, what do you call the gentleman who provided half of your DNA?

I called him Dad - in the flesh. But God is my father, for we read, "But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God..." and "but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, "Abba! Father!" 16 The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God..."

I haven't cherry-picked any Scriptures. I would appreciate it if you would cite an example otherwise.

Since the Pope alone can interpret scripture, he is free to twist it into a pretzel to get the results he wants. Consider Purgatory and Indulgences...or the ridiculous idea that Mary was born sinless and lived sinless...or the even more ridiculous idea that Peter was made Vicar of Christ by Jesus!

49 posted on 07/19/2009 7:03:26 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Mr Rogers
I called him Dad

Really? You never said "in the living room" when your mother asked "where is your father?" Further, you must believe in the Catholic doctrine of transubstantion, because Jesus did say "I am the bread of life." Or was that saying merely hyperbole, whereas his quote on calling men "father" literal?

I haven't cherry-picked any Scriptures. I would appreciate it if you would cite an example otherwise.

Your original post pulled one quote out of a book of Scripture.

Since the Pope alone can interpret scripture,
That is simply untrue. Any well-informed Catholic can interpret Scripture. Of course, that interpretation cannot come in a vacuum, but must be enlightened by the statements of Ecumenical Councils, the writings of the Church Fathers, etc.

but he is free to twist it into a pretzel to get the results he wants.
Again, simply untrue. Show me one doctrine or dogma, in toto, that twists Scripture.

Consider Purgatory and Indulgences
Purgatory: nothing unclean may enter into Heaven. Are you completely free of sin upon death? Indulgences: Whatever is bound on earth...

or the ridiculous idea that Mary was born sinless and lived sinless
So the New Ark of the Covenant, the new Eve, was just ordinary? Despite the fact that the old Ark was commanded to be adorned with jewels, gold, etc.?

or the even more ridiculous idea that Peter was made Vicar of Christ by Jesus!
"You are Rock, and upon this Rock..."

You are merely disagreeing with our interpretation of Scripture.

56 posted on 07/19/2009 7:21:27 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: Mr Rogers

Where did you get that idea? It is not true.

See, for instance, The Limits of Scripture Interpretation

64 posted on 07/19/2009 7:38:25 PM PDT by delacoert
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