Radio Replies Volume One: Protestantism Erroneous

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[GonzoII]

"You gotta love Salza - concise, accurate and to the point. I enjoyed The Biblical Basis for the Eucharist."

He sure makes things easy.

[SoConPubbie]

1Tm:3:15: "But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth., "

Once again, the Church of God is not an organization of men, regulated, organized, and managed by men. The Church of God are those whose hearts and lives have been redeemed by the Blood of Christ.

[SoConPubbie]

Nothing is personal, we are discussing truths.

I think most rational reasoning men and women would disagree with you on that.

The scripture support for the positions stated by the author are weak or non-existant or taken out of context.

Furthermore, the reliance on the traditions of men as the edicts of God without any clear scriptural support are the main contention of Protestants.

The deification of Mary

The praying to Mary as if she had any power with Jesus above any other redemeed sinner

The deification of Saints and prayers to the them when Jesus should be the sole receiver of our prayers and the sole receiver of our faith.

Purgatory, for which there is no clear, in context support for.

The ability to pray somebody out of purgatory for which ther is no scripture support.

The lack of power and victory over sin in Catholic Teaching and the need to come regularly and confess your sins to a Priest when Christ died once and for all for your sins, not only to forgive you but to change your very heart and give you power over the sin in your life.

It is as if the Catholic church backslid into the Old Testament ceremonial continual sacrificial law which Christ came to deliver not only the Jews, but all of Mankind from.

It would seem that when Paul confronted Peter and the other apostles for dissassembling with the Jews after Jesus had gone back to Heaven that instead of heading Paul's advice, some of those people decided that the practices and traditions of men were more important than the freedom from Sin that came from relying solely on the Blood of Christ. It would appear that these same group of people became the Catholic Church.

Christ came to free men from unnecessary and non-production reliance on the traditions of fallible men.

The Catholic Church has retained all of the form of Godliness, without the Power. The Catholic Church has retained a reliance on all of the traditions of the church without the SOLE reliance on a Christ who died for them on Calvary. As a result, much like the Jews and the heathens (as Paul explained in his books) God has removed his blessing from the Catholic Church and given it to whomsoever will obey his word and rely solely on the merits of Christ's sacrifice on Calvary for their salvation.

[Terabitten]

Here we go again. More Christians using the whole armor of God to attack each other.

[nightwalker]

I’m not sure where the true church, founded by Christ and the desciples exists today. One thing is clear to me, it is not located in the vatican.

[narses]

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[annalex]

Very good catechisis, thanks for posting.

[GonzoII]

I have complied.

[GonzoII]

"I’m not sure where the true church, founded by Christ and the desciples exists today. One thing is clear to me, it is not located in the vatican."

What is the History of Your Church?

Church	Year Established	Founder	Where Established
Catholic	33	Jesus Christ	Jerusalem
Orthodox	1054	Schismatic Catholic Bishops	Constantinople
Lutheran	1517	Martin Luther	Germany
Anabaptist	1521	Nicholas Storch & Thomas Munzer	Germany
Anglican	1534	Henry VIII	England
Mennonites	1536	Menno Simons	Switzerland
Calvinist	1555	John Calvin	Switzerland
Presbyterian	1560	John Knox	Scotland
Congregational	1582	Robert Brown	Holland
Baptist	1609	John Smyth	Amsterdam
Dutch Reformed	1628	Michaelis Jones	New York
Congregationalist	1648	Pilgrims and Puritans	Massachusetts
Quakers	1649	George Fox	England
Amish	1693	Jacob Amman	France
Freemasons	1717	Masons from four lodges	London
Methodist	1739	John & Charles Wesley	England
Unitarian	1774	Theophilus Lindey	London
Methodist Episcopal	1784	60 Preachers	Baltimore, MD
Episcopalian	1789	Samuel Seabury	American Colonies
United Brethren	1800	Philip Otterbein & Martin Boehn	Maryland
Disciples of Christ	1827	Thomas & Alexander Campbell	Kentucky
Mormon	1830	Joseph Smith	New York
Methodist Protestant	1830	Methodist	United States
Church of Christ	1836	Warren Stone & Alexander Campbell	Kentucky
Seventh Day Adventist	1844	Ellen White	Washington, NH
Christadelphian (Brethren of Christ	1844	John Thomas	Richmond, VA
Salvation Army	1865	William Booth	London
Holiness	1867	Methodist	United States
Jehovah's Witnesses	1874	Charles Taze Russell	Pennsylvania
Christian Science	1879	Mary Baker Eddy	Boston
Church of God in Christ	1895	Various churches of God	Arkansas
Church of Nazarene	c. 1850-1900	Various religious bodies	Pilot Point, TX
Pentecstal	1901	Charles F. Parkham	Topeka, KS
Aglipayan	1902	Gregorio Aglipay	Philippines
Assemblies of God	1914	Pentecostalism	Hot Springs, AZ
Iglesia ni Christo	1914	Felix Manalo	Philippines
Four-square Gospel	1917	Aimee Semple McPherson	Los Angeles, CA
United Church of Christ	1961	Reformed and Congregationalist	Philadelphia, PA
Calvary Chapel	1965	Chuck Smith	Costa Mesa, CA
United Methodist	1968	Methodist and United Brethren	Dallas, TX
Born-again	c. 1970s	Various religious bodies	United States
Harvest Christian	1972	Greg Laurie	Riverside, CA
Saddleback	1982	Rick Warren	California
Non-denominational	c. 1990s	various	United States

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[GonzoII]

My pleasure.

[bdeaner]

Where is mass described in the scriptures?

SEE HERE FOR SCRIPTURAL REFERENCES TO THE MASS

Also, the entire Book of Revelations is a description of the Heavenly Liturgy which is mirrored by the Catholic Mass, which has the same liturgical structure. See Scott Hahn's The Lamb's Supper.