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1 posted on 04/23/2009 3:35:50 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Some non-Catholics are going to be foaming at the mouth to post after reading the title. Caucus thread, too bad.


2 posted on 04/23/2009 3:42:59 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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**Benedict XVI began by underlining the importance of the chosen theme, which “concerns not only believers, but the Church herself, because the Church’s life and mission necessarily rest upon the Word of God … .” **

Shocker to some! But not to us!


8 posted on 04/23/2009 5:26:07 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: markomalley

I think this does not exclude a more personal meaning, additional meaning, as for example in Lectio Divina. However, this would not be, and certainly not be taught as, the Church’s interpretation.


14 posted on 04/23/2009 11:36:46 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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I am going to respectfully, but vehemently disagree with the Pope on this one.

I have a Bible, a brain and prayer. NO ONE aside from Jesus Christ himself needs to come between me and God.

15 posted on 04/23/2009 11:50:20 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We either Free America ourselves, or it is midnight for humanity for a thousand years.)
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To: markomalley
I love this Pope -- I was there for Holy Week this year and in the crowd on Wednesday and for the grande masses. It was fantastic being in the crowd shouting out Pere Beneditto!

About this matter, he is absolutely right -- the scriptures were given by God and we as an individual can only understand a small part of the hugeness that is God, but we can, as a group, as a community, understand a larger part of the vastness that is the divinity.
17 posted on 04/24/2009 4:10:45 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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Also:

all the books which the Church receives as sacred and canonical, are written wholly and entirely, with all their parts, at the dictation of the Holy Ghost; and so far is it from being possible that any error can co-exist with inspiration, that inspiration not only is essentially incompatible with error, but excludes and rejects it as absolutely and necessarily as it is impossible that God Himself, the supreme Truth, can utter that which is not true. This is the ancient and unchanging faith of the Church, solemnly defined in the Councils of Florence and of Trent, and finally confirmed and more expressly formulated by the Council of the Vatican.

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those who maintain that an error is possible in any genuine passage of the sacred writings, either pervert the Catholic notion of inspiration, or make God the author of such error.

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In order that all these endeavours and exertions may really prove advantageous to the cause of the Bible, let scholars keep steadfastly to the principles which We have in this Letter laid down. Let them loyally hold that God, the Creator and Ruler of all things, is also the Author of the Scriptures - and that therefore nothing can be proved either by physical science or archaeology which can really contradict the Scriptures. If, then, apparent contradiction be met with, every effort should be made to remove it. Judicious theologians and commentators should be consulted as to what is the true or most probable meaning of the passage in discussion, and the hostile arguments should be carefully weighed. Even if the difficulty is after all not cleared up and the discrepancy seems to remain, the contest must not be abandoned; truth cannot contradict truth, and we may be sure that some mistake has been made either in the interpretation of the sacred words, or in the polemical discussion itself; and if no such mistake can be detected, we must then suspend judgment for the time being. There have been objections without number perseveringly directed against the Scripture for many a long year, which have been proved to be futile and are now never heard of; and not unfrequently interpretations have been placed on certain passages of Scripture (not belonging to the rule of faith or morals) which have been rectified by more careful investigations. As time goes on, mistaken views die and disappear; but "truth remaineth and groweth stronger for ever and ever."(61) Wherefore, as no one should be so presumptuous as to think that he understands the whole of the Scripture, in which St. Augustine himself confessed that there was more that he did not know, than that he knew,(62) so, if he should come upon anything that seems incapable of solution, he must take to heart the cautious rule of the same holy Doctor: "It is better even to be oppressed by unknown but useful signs, than to interpret them uselessly and thus to throw off the yoke only to be caught in the trap of error. "

Leo XIII on the inerrancy of scripture (from Providentissimus Deus) [ecum.]

24 posted on 04/24/2009 8:51:31 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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