God Exists, and He's Mormon

The American Spectator ^ | 3/16/2009 | Jeremy Lott

[Alex Murphy]

"God exists, and he's American" is the judgment of Dr. Milton Glass, fictional nuclear physicist from the acclaimed Alan Moore-Dave Gibbons comic Watchmen, when he learns that Jon Osterman, has come back from the dead. Osterman disputes Glass's judgment, but the new deity's protest rings as hollow as his promise of fealty to his first girlfriend.

In the story, Osterman dies in a freak lab accident that is the stuff of countless superhero origin stories. It utterly obliterates his body but leaves his mind intact and powerful. Osterman then re-creates himself from scratch. He is not just reborn but transfigured and renamed, as the world's oddest crime fighter: Dr. Manhattan. By the end of the tale, Manhattan even talks of Osterman as a different person.

Obviously, Dr. Manhattan looks different. He has the skin of a Smurf, the body of a Greek god. He crackles with energy and can manipulate other matter with the same ease that he reconstructed himself. Less obviously: His changed perceptions bracket him off from the rest of mankind. He can see things at the molecular level but is puzzled by basic human emotions and conventions. His women complain that they can't connect with him and he often walks around in his rebirthday suit. He perceives time differently as well -- the future and the past run together.

Dr. Manhattan is clearly a sort of god. After the mystery at the heart of Watchmen is resolved, he professes a newfound fondness for human life and muses, "perhaps I'll create some" -- elsewhere in the universe. But what sort of a god is he?

Enter: irony. One group that is not likely to come out in great numbers to see the new film Watchmen is members in good standing of the

[Religion Moderator]

spamlds is no longer with us.

[Elsie]

If you would like to test my knowledge of scripture, I would invite you to debate me at www.spamlds.org.

So, if I read you right, you are saying that we should NOT used the BIBLE to understand false doctrine?

And then are you saying that we SHOULD use LDS 'scripture' to understand TRUE doctrine?

I am truly confused as to the logic of this!

[Elsie]

Thanks to this forum you have the right to vomit hate at Mormons 24/7 along with your little group of spiteful self righteous mangy hens who have little else to do in their lives, evidently, except eat brownies in front of the computer and gang up on people.

I'm a COW and am NOT mangy!

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http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”

[Godzilla]

He's dead Elsie

[colorcountry]

May he rest in peas.

Peas go with spam, right?

[Elsie]

But than most of the anti hang around each other who have such faultfinding, vindictive attitudes.

When did THIS memo go out?

I never get the dumb things on time!

I'm still operating on the "Natural Man" one!

--MormonDude(Hey HEADQUARTERS!! Put ME back on your routing list!!)

[Elsie]

You keep doing it, folks will begin to think that you believe it is ok to use false evidence.

 

 

That's ok; for we know that YOU, finder of miniscule FALSITY, will be SURE to allege it's existence.

 

It would be beneath you to ACTUALLY point it out in some manner.

 

 

 

 

You keep doing it, folks will begin to think that you believe it is ok to use --> false <<-  evidence.

 

 

[Elsie]

Rarely??

Rarely??

RARELY???

[Elsie]

spamlds is no longer with us.

Rats!

I was looking forward to him...

What did he do that was so bad?

[Godzilla]

My goodness Elsie, did someone slip extra fiber into you oatmeal this morning LOL.

[Religion Moderator]

Coming to this forum to pick fights against forum members to continue in the safety of another forum is trollish behavior and/or pimping a blog. New signups behaving this way on the Religion Forum will be shown the door.

[Elsie]

What are some ways to get extra fiber in my diet?

Check out this list of high fiber foods. Just 1-2 changes in your daily habits can really increase your fiber intake. Remember to increase fiber slowly over time, allowing your body to adjust, and drink more fluid, especially water. Fiber acts like a sponge. It will absorb the water, adding bulk to your stool, making it softer and easier to eliminate from the body. 7 grams or more of FIBER All Bran Cereal 1/3 cup Fiber One Cereal 1/2 cup Butter beans 1/2 cup Green northern beans 1/2 cup Kidney beans 1/2cup Navy beans 1/2 cup 5-6 grams of FIBER Raisin Bran Cereal 3/4 cup Bran Flakes 3/4 cup Brussels sprouts 1/2 cup Turnips 1/2 cup Black beans 1/2 cup Lentils 1/2 cup Pinto beans 1/2 cup 2-4 grams of FIBER Grits 1 cup Oatmeal 3/4 cup Popcorn 3 cups Pumpernickel bread 1 slice Rye bread 1 slice Apple 1 Apricots 4 Orange 1 Pears 1/2 large Plums 2 Prunes, dried 4 Strawberries 1 cup Broccoli 1/2 cup Carrots 1 Green beans 1/2 cup Lima beans 1/2 cup

[Elsie]

Ah..

I see.

Just as long as we ol’ timers can still pick and tease one another...

;^)

[Religion Moderator]

Anti-FR behavior will get a poster pinched, newbies sooner than oldtimers, but it is still considered trollish.

[Alex Murphy]

What did he do that was so bad?

Read it for yourself, both what he claimed to do and what he claimed he didn't do. In Greg West's own words:

From the blog entry Prepare for the next wave:
...After a hiatus of a couple years, I rejoined the forums at Freerepublic.com. I had been a member there since around 2004 on this conservative political forum, but I asked the moderators there to delete my account [FReeper name gregwest, last posting history here.] in protest after someone posted some of the temple stuff up there. The Christian "Taliban" that dominates the right wing of the Republican party was having hissy-fits because they thought Mitt Romney was going to get nominated. The place is still a hotbed for anti-Mormons and rarely does anything appear there about the Church that doesn't send them into paroxysms....

...I had a fun time the last 24 hours or so. I've checked the forum posts on FR off and on throughout the day and posted a few short replies. I was able to identify 24 anti-Mormons (I mean virulently anti-Mormon!) and my few comments incited 194 hateful, attacking replies. I was able to identify the "ringleader" of the antis, who alerted all the others to my presence, calling them to action. Another guy used three of the six anti-Mormon tactics.

All in all it was a productive day! And all I had to do was show up and say that it was wrong for people to say mean, scurrilous, and disrespectful things with them. I didn't bash or debate with any of them. That was enough to generate nearly 200 posts! Anti-Mormonism is an amazing obsession! If I wasn't so old, I'd go back to school to be a psychiatrist and write a dissertation on it!

From the blog entry spamlds FreeRepublic account suspended:
So I went and checked it out. I can log into FR but I've been banned as a "troll." I would ask that you Freepers intervene and ask that my account be restored. If you go back and read the two threads from yesterday, all you'll see is me defending. When the antis wanted answers, I just referred them here. I guess even that was too effective for them and the antis complained and had me banned. I'll be writing up a summary of the day's encounters later on. It should be interesting.

[ejonesie22]

Hey, I am trying to give benefit of the doubt here...

LOL!!!

[JRochelle]

I was able to identify the "ringleader" of the antis, who alerted all the others to my presence, calling them to action.

So which one of you two is the "ringleader"? ROTFL!

[colorcountry]

We’re still fighting about it.

:)

[Alex Murphy]

So which one of you two is the "ringleader"? ROTFL!

"I've got one that can see!"

[greyfoxx39]

I was able to identify the "ringleader" of the antis, who alerted all the others to my presence, calling them to action.

Well, ALL Inmans know that the "ringleader" position is SACRED AND SECRET. Anyone divulging the sacred name will be disemboweled and have their throat slit!

Poor persecuted things, have to demonize an internet "ping" list, and not for the first time....