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CHRISTIANITY DEFINED - (LDS Site Defining Christianity) OPEN
LDS site Foundation for Christian Studies ^

Posted on 02/22/2009 7:00:41 AM PST by greyfoxx39

Edited on 02/22/2009 8:24:57 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: restornu

Would you please show me where the word restore appears in the Bible?:)


81 posted on 02/22/2009 11:42:26 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

This is the very reason people do not take you seriously when you quote scripture. Biblical scripture that is.


82 posted on 02/22/2009 11:52:28 AM PST by svcw (This maybe my last transmission - God have mercy on us.)
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To: restornu
for some reason we get those who insist on disrupting to find ways to disparage our closed bulletins.


83 posted on 02/22/2009 12:01:33 PM PST by delacoert
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To: Tennessee Nana; sevenbak; Arrowhead

Israel is apostate, rebellious, and corrupt; a very small remnant only is faithful—Their sacrifices and feasts are rejected—They are called upon to repent and work righteousness—Zion shall be redeemed in the day of restoration.

Isaiah 1

25 ¶ And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin:

26 And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city.

27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.

Matt 17

10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?

11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.


84 posted on 02/22/2009 12:17:05 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

REAL Christians look to Jesus Christ the Lord for leadership...when there is a need or trouble...

Mormons look to Joey Smith, their “prophet” for leadership...when there is a need or trouble...

For Christians, the blood that Jesus that was shed on the Cross at calvary paid the price of our salvation...

For mormons, following Joey Smith brings salvation...

“In conclusion, let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet,” for our salvation hangs on them.

First: The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.

Second: The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.

Third: The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.

Fourth: The prophet will never lead the Church astray.

Fifth: The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.

Sixth: The prophet does not have to say “Thus saith the Lord” to give us scripture.

Seventh: The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.

Eighth: The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.

Ninth: The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.

Tenth: The prophet may be involved in civic matters.

Eleventh: The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.

Twelfth: The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.

Thirteenth: The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.

Fourteenth: The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed; reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. if we want to know how well we stand with the Lord, then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain. How closely do our lives harmonize with the words of the Lord’s anointed—the living prophet, the President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency?

May God bless us all to look to the prophet and the presidency in the critical and crucial days ahead, is my prayer. In the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.”

(Mormon Elder Ezra Taft Benson, exerpt of a speech to students in BYU “Fourteen fundamentals in following the prophet”, February 26, 1980)


85 posted on 02/22/2009 12:27:49 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

First: The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
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Blasphemeous lie...


86 posted on 02/22/2009 12:29:59 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Second: The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
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Maybe so to duped mormons...

But the Bible is the most vital work of all...

the so called “prophet” is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay down the list...


87 posted on 02/22/2009 12:31:58 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Third: The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
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Ol’ dead Joey Smith is rolling in his grave...

and none of the mormon “prophets” dead or alive are important to God...


88 posted on 02/22/2009 12:33:36 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: delacoert
And the point of all this is????

Are you FOR or AGAINST?? ;)

89 posted on 02/22/2009 12:36:22 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Google "Illinois' history of insatiable greed" for insight into what is coming our way.)
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To: restornu

Fourth: The prophet will never lead the Church astray.
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A REAL prophet would not have...

The prophets of the Bible had respect for God...

and God would have got him...

But Joey Smith and his cabal were never and are not now prophets...

The filthy rich thieves and conmen in Temple Square are not prophets of the God of the Bible...


90 posted on 02/22/2009 12:36:59 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Fifth: The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
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And yet the REAL apostle Paul never spoke about Jesus until he had been trained by God for FOURTEEN years...

BTW Resty, next time you need major surgery, call one of these guys...


91 posted on 02/22/2009 12:40:05 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu
Their sacrifices and feasts are rejected

Do you know why Israel no longer has sacrifices?

92 posted on 02/22/2009 12:41:56 PM PST by svcw (This maybe my last transmission - God have mercy on us.)
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To: restornu

Sixth: The prophet does not have to say “Thus saith the Lord” to give us scripture.
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Well, Tolstoy didnt have to say “Thus saith the Loed” to write “War and Peace”...

But what he wrote was closer to “scripture” than what a mormon “prophet” has to say...


93 posted on 02/22/2009 12:43:16 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39; delacoert

Or they just learned how to post pictures.


94 posted on 02/22/2009 12:43:34 PM PST by svcw (This maybe my last transmission - God have mercy on us.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
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95 posted on 02/22/2009 12:46:40 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Google "Illinois' history of insatiable greed" for insight into what is coming our way.)
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To: restornu

Seventh: The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
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Now this one has some merit...

The so called “prophet Joey Smith told us EVERYTHING we needed to know about himself and his phony religion to determine he was a fake and a charlatan...

And Young and the rest or the cabal reaffirmed that mormonism is not akin to Christianity

Actually we also get “what we want to know” regardless of the cover ups..


96 posted on 02/22/2009 12:47:17 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Eighth: The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
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Joey Smith was criminally insane..


97 posted on 02/22/2009 12:48:33 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Ninth: The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
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Why would a “prophet” need revelation from God about a temporal matter...

Just read the instructions that came on the box...

And voila a bicycle...


98 posted on 02/22/2009 12:50:56 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Tenth: The prophet may be involved in civic matters.
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This was to cover Smith’s coveting the presidency of the United States...

His crowning himself “king of the world”...

And his unfit office of “mayor” or Nauvoo...


99 posted on 02/22/2009 12:53:11 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

Eleventh: The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
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1. Smith never met a rich man that he turned away...he usually gave them a high office...

They could buy their “salvation”

2. the learned bit was because educated men who could read the Bible, and knew that Smith was not of God, and rejected Smith and his fraudulant religion...

However Smith needed some of them to help write his fairy tale so he kept the ones he could flatter...like Oliver Cowdery...

3. Proud...well that let’s out ol’ Smith himself...Smith was proud, boastful...

Oh, wait Smith had trouble following his own prophecies...

Make that one a yes...


100 posted on 02/22/2009 1:00:29 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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