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Posted on 08/24/2008 4:10:20 AM PDT by restornu
Mormons, members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commonly known as the Mormon Church believe that this life is not the end. Through the sealing power performed in the Temple, Mormons believe we can be together with our family forever through Jesus Christ. Heavenly Father sent Jesus Christ to pave the way for us to return to Him. This is the great plan of happiness!
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WE WILL BE TOGETHER FOREVER SOMEDAY Words and Music by: Michael Mclean
Will its harder to say goodbye and let go for time to ever erase, and its hard to see it end When the mem'ries we've just made may never happen again.
But its harder for time to ever erase the together times we've shared. So when we're apart remember all the love we've shared together And for all the love thanks the Lord above who showed us the way.
That we can be together forever someday We can be together forever someday We will be together forever someday.
This is an “ecumenical” thread in the Religion Forum. Antagonism is not allowed.
Thank you for the ping
It does not present itself as (Ecumenical).
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Here is what the scriptures have to say about that.
Matthew 22
8 Then saith he to his servants,
9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
Can you point me to the place in the Bible, or in this particular example, that requires "worthiness" in regards to witnessing a wedding to be determined by the answers to the questions in Post No. 13?
Failing that, can you point me to a scripture that describes "worthiness" other than this..."And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment"?
How would membership in and obeying the ordinances of, the LDS church in order to be worthy to witness a wedding, be commanded prior to this requirement by the modern LDS church? Where is the revelation received by Joseph Smith that commands this exclusion?
Is this something that didn't need to be "restored??
Is there some description of the aforesaid "wedding garment" available in Biblical scripture? Please cite.
I would really like to see an explanation for the exclusion of family at LDS weddings. It didn't affect me personally, but I have seen it cause great grief for quite a few folks.
Thanks Monkey Face. Do you keep the Ten Commandments?
I try very hard to keep the Ten Commandments, and some days, it’s not easy.
Some people are better at it than others, some are worse, and some act like they’ve never heard of them.
I figure as long as I’m trying, it’s a good thing!
You call them wedding "witness". Most people and the Bible call them wedding "guest". They are synonymous.
On to your question about exclusion: As the scripture points out there were some that were not "worthy". You say that family members are forbidden. That is not true. They must, however, conform to the wishes of the Lord as to worthiness. Certainly someone who is antagonistic toward His Church and His People would not be welcome in His House. He would rather have such a person "bound hand and foot" and cast out. The remedy for this, of course, as the Gospel outlines is for that person to repent and submit their will to the Lord. Instead of fashioning a god from their own understanding, they must do the will of the Father and the Son. In so doing they will be both worthy and welcome. The person who vaunts himself/herself before the Lord will never come into His presence- no matter what the circumstances. Not in this life or the next.
I have always wondered that the LDS do not observe the seventh day sabbath. Both the Bible and LDS scriptures affirm the holiness of the day, and its place in the 10 Commandments compels observance. Have you ever done a study of the subject?
You mean made up out of whole cloth like the Trinity business? Or do you mean fabricated like that Calvinist stuff?
Can you point me to the place in the Bible, that requires "worthiness" in regards to witnessing a wedding to be determined by the answers to the questions in Post No. 13?
Failing that, can you point me to a scripture that describes "worthiness" other than this..."And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment"?
How would membership in and obeying the ordinances of, the LDS church in order to be worthy to witness a wedding, be commanded prior to this requirement by the modern LDS church? Where is the revelation received by Joseph Smith that commands this exclusion?
Is this something that didn't need to be "restored??
Is there some description of the aforesaid "wedding garment" available in Biblical scripture? Please cite.
I will add a question regarding this statement in post #29: " You say that family members are forbidden. That is not true. They must, however, conform to the wishes of the Lord as to worthiness."
Please furnish the BIBLICAL scripture describing the "worthiness" requirements you are citing, and secondly, what was the revelation to any of the LDS prophets that proclaimed that no one was to be allowed to witness a temple wedding ceremony unless they met the requirements laid out in my post #13?
Also, who made the decision that a temple ceremony could not immediately follow a civil ceremony? Mitt Romney was sealed within days of his civil wedding ceremony.
There MUST be some Biblical scripture somewhere that relates to all of this, and some LDS scripture somewhere that commands it, IMO. I would think it would be easily found.
Actually, the Seventh Day Sabbath was changed when Christ rose from the dead.
This is what I learned in Catholic school, and have never seen anything to dispute it. Sunday was changed to the day of worship for the Christians, to commemorate Jesus’ return to Earth. Of course, Easter is specifically the day, but Sundays are used to remind us.
I suspect somewhere along the line, it had to be a Papal edict, but until then, it became “official” by constant usage.
Muslims and Jews still use Friday at Sundown to mark the start of Sabbath.
Thanks MF.
There is no scriptural basis for any change in the Sabbath. Easter is not mentioned in scripture, and neither is any mention made of Sunday being used to commemorate anything. There was indeed a Papal edict issued in regard to Sabbath being changed to Sunday, but does the Pope get to supercede scripture? Tradition is a very powerful force, especially in modern day christianity.
No thanks, necessary!
I guess I learned something in religion classes, after all! LOL!
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was foreordained to his great calling in the Grand Councils before the world was.
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Many like to take gods out of context and make it more than it is.
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This is the Decree from the first Pontiff of the Roman church to all the world.
Emperor Constantine, Emperor of the Roman Empire
He had issued an Edict making Sunday the day of rest
In 321 CE, while a Pagan sun-worshiper, the Emperor Constantine declared that Sunday was to be a day of rest throughout the Roman Empire: "On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for grain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost."
Council of Laodicea circa 364 CE ordered that religious observances were to be conducted on Sunday, not Saturday. Sunday became the new Sabbath.
They ruled: "Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day."
Free agency
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Baptism for the dead would cause the victim and the abuser to eventually both be in the same place, yes...
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