Obama and McCain Woo Catholics

MICHAEL WESTFALL'S ...AMERICAN CONSERVATIVES ^ | 8-18-2008 | ANITA CRANE

[mware]

It may be above my pay grade to state this, but real Catholics are not buying Obama’s line on life.

[A CA Guy]

If you go by Catholicism, Obama should flop. There is though a ton of non-Catholic Catholics who are very liberal.

[HANG THE EXPENSE]

Or CINOs.

[A CA Guy]

Now you are making me think about the city of En-cino.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm!

[Clintonfatigued]

Catholics on FR are better qualified than I am to respond to Obama’s appeal to Catholics.

[tbpiper]

Any Catholics voting for Obama ought to get double purgatory. And for the sake of emphasis, I'll g throw in my fellow evangelical protestants. For the sin of an Obama vote, my Presbyterian self will allow, if not encourage, the existence of purgatory to accommodate such foolishness.

[the invisib1e hand]

One of Obama’s Catholics, Kansas governor Kathleen Sebelius (D), was personally and publicly informed by Kansas City ’s Archbishop Joseph Naumann that she disqualifies herself from Holy Communion and she should “take the difficult political step, but necessary moral step, of repudiating her past actions in support of legalized abortion.”

Like everything else about Obama, even his Catholics are make-pretend.

[humblegunner]

Obama and McCain Woo Catholics

Ping to you, so easily wooed.....

[Iscool]

It may be above my pay grade to state this, but real Catholics are not buying Obama’s line on life.

In which case then, there are only half as many Catholics out there than you guys claim...

Trouble is, if they've been baptized, you're stuck with 'em...

[LtKerst]

How can any Catholic vote for such a Pro-Abortion Baby Killer like Obama???

[Marysecretary]

I agree. I’m amazed at the people I hear talking about supporting Obama. Arghhhhhhh.

[narses]

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[CTrent1564]

I must admit, that is one heck of good post, done with theological precision, and a good sense of humor

Kudos from this Catholic

Pax et bonum

[Mr. Binnacle]

The Knights of Columbus does more to promote pro life values than many of our Priests do at the pulpit.

The fact that the Catholic population does not understand/care to know the facts about different candidates or reflect on their Catholic values to determine who they vote for is tragic and inexcusable.

[Condor51]

Well this Catholic 'ain't' voting for him, that's for darn sure.

Everything Obama is for, or believes in, is IMHO contrary to the basic tenets of Christianity in general. And that's because he's a communist.

He may espouse 'Matthew' but he's got 'Marx' in his heart.

[kellynla]

Again, lets not confuse practicing Catholics with CINO’s.

Obama has two chances of winning...slim & none and “Slim” just left the building. LOL

[Aliska]

So by Chaput's logic, McCain might be the lesser of the evils even though he does not have a 100% stellar pro-life stance like we have been told. He voted for embryonic stem cell research which I forgot.

And some scientific researcher argues that embryonic/fetal stem cells won't work anyway. I'm sure there are others who argue the opposite.

What a conundrum. On that alone, I don't want to vote for McCain, could bring myself around if he had a true change of heart and mind. No one can talk me into or out of anything. I am the decider of how I vote, and I do highly regard Catholic moral teachings on this issue; indeed were it not for that, I might have swerved a different way myself. To my knowledge, the Catholic church is the only Christian religious body that speaks out on this issue with such clarity (at the magisterial level).

Chaput's letter was a little confusing when I read it.

[Salvation]

Catholic beliefs about Abortion:

1:

CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2271  (618 bytes )  preview document matches 1 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2271.htm

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2:

CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2272  (580 bytes )  preview document matches 2 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2272.htm

96%

3:

CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2322  (290 bytes )  preview document matches 2 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a "criminal" practice (GS 27 § 3), URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2322.htm

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4:	CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2274  (554 bytes )  preview document matches gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2274.htm

[Salvation]

You do fine. Not to worry!