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Edward Achorn: Was the immortal Bard a Catholic?
The Providence Journal ^ | Tuesday, August 5, 2008 | EDWARD ACHORN

Posted on 08/07/2008 7:37:07 PM PDT by annalex

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1 posted on 08/07/2008 7:37:08 PM PDT by annalex
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2 posted on 08/07/2008 7:38:40 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
Her father, Henry VIII, separated England from the Catholic Church when the latter declined to approve of his rather complex marital relationships.

LOL Complex doesn't begin to describe Henry's marriage(s). Certainly believable that Mr. Shakespeare was a Catholic...although, except for Measure for Measure, I don't see his beliefs showing that much.

3 posted on 08/07/2008 7:43:50 PM PDT by madison10
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To: annalex

I’ve long believed Shakespeare to have been a Catholic.


4 posted on 08/07/2008 7:46:59 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998

I saw an interview with Pearce on EWTN. He was most convincing, most convinced after pursuing his research for some time. He did not start out convinced.


5 posted on 08/07/2008 7:50:45 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: annalex

Of course Shakespeare was Catholic! And Abraham Lincoln was gay and Jewish, too.


6 posted on 08/07/2008 7:58:35 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: bboop

That’s what I heard too. There’s actually been a growing amount of evidence discovered and marshalled over the years.


7 posted on 08/07/2008 8:09:53 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: madison10
Pearce isn't the first scholar to suggest that Shakespeare may have been a Catholic.

Henry VIII broke with Rome when the pope wouldn't agree to his divorcing Catherine of Aragon, his first wife. The other five marriages happened after the break with Rome.

8 posted on 08/07/2008 8:10:41 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: annalex

I recall reading, though I cannot now recall the source, that there was evidence Shakespeare’s father was a crypto-Catholic.

I question this statement by Achorn: “All this, of course, must seem anathema to academics who wish to embrace Shakespeare as the spokesman of secular modernity.”

The Renaissance (and modern humanism) began in Italy, among Catholics. I don’t see how if Shakespeare was Catholic that would have prevented him from being as secular as his C of E friends. I think in that regard there proably was little difference between the two religions in sixteenth century England.


9 posted on 08/07/2008 8:11:07 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Have you read any of the books out there about Shakespeare being Catholic? There are a number of them. Rather than just dismiss them, why not read one of them.

As Stephen Greenblatt wrote in his biography of Shakespeare, called Will in the World: How Shakespeare Became Shakespeare:

Shakespeare’s religious beliefs have excited heated debate among scholars. What is in little dispute is that some of Shakespeare’s family and acquaintances — including his schoolmasters — had connections to English Catholicism and to the missionaries sent secretly to England by the Catholic Church to bring that country back to the fold. Many of these missionaries, including the Jesuit scholar Edmund Campion, were arrested and executed by the authorities. There is also evidence — in the form of a Catholic religious testament found in the 18th century in a house that once belonged to the Shakespeare family — that Shakespeare’s father remained a Catholic during Shakespeare’s youth.

Claire Asquith, Shadowplay:

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:PuTR8WG9NN0J:www.godspy.com/reviews/Cracking-Shakespeares-Code-An-interview-with-Claire-Asquith-author-of-Shadowplay.cfm+bibliography+shakespeare+catholic&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us


10 posted on 08/07/2008 8:21:42 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

You’ve been getting your history from too many teflon-suited Rev. Billies.


11 posted on 08/07/2008 8:22:27 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: FFranco

There is nothing un-Catholic about Renaissance, which was, after all, deeply religious. Modern humanism was a parasitic philosophical movement that exploited the Renaisance for its own satanic ends.

I can see a connection between Shakespeare and Catholic Renaissance, but to connect him to the likes of Rousseau, Voltaire and Diderot is a long stretch.


12 posted on 08/07/2008 8:25:08 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

to connect him to the likes of Rousseau, Voltaire and Diderot is a long stretch.


I didn’t.


13 posted on 08/07/2008 8:30:43 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I doubt the gay part. but I do know he was Jewish. After all he got shot in the Temple. Bada Bing! Thank you I’ll be appearing at Schmucky Schmucksteins on Tues. no cover 2 drink minimum.


14 posted on 08/07/2008 9:04:18 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: annalex

I about fell off my exercise bike when the PBS movie: “In Search of Shakespeare” suggested as much.

I should clarify that the movie conclude one way or another but suggested it was possible. I had never heard this or the reasons why so it made quite an impression on me.

This was only talked about in passing but from the content I remember it was pretty likely that his father was in fact Catholic.

Another interesting thing from this DVD was a very brief appearance of Patrick Stewart aka Jean-Luc Picard as Hamlet.

http://www.shoppbs.org/sm-pbs-in-search-of-shakespeare-dvd—pi-1452173.html


15 posted on 08/07/2008 9:04:32 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

“I should clarify that the movie conclude one way or another but suggested it was possible.” should be:

“I should clarify that the movie DID NOT conclude one way or another but suggested it was possible.”


16 posted on 08/07/2008 9:06:57 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

All that aside, wasn’t that a well written article?


17 posted on 08/07/2008 9:23:55 PM PDT by johnnycap
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To: annalex

Edward DeVere, the Earl of Oxford, was a Catholic for much of his life, until he renounced his faith in front of Queen Liz.
Therefore, the REAL “Shakespeare” was an ex-Catholic.


18 posted on 08/07/2008 9:29:02 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: annalex

This is the second time I have come across this notion. Really something to ponder. I had never really thought about it at all.


19 posted on 08/07/2008 10:00:28 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Clemenza; vladimir998
You're kidding, right C?

v, Stephen Greenbalatt bump!

20 posted on 08/07/2008 10:11:38 PM PDT by onedoug
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