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Oxford view on Shroud of Turin eagerly awaited
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| August 7, 2008
Posted on 08/07/2008 6:25:36 AM PDT by NYer
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posted on
08/07/2008 6:25:36 AM PDT
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NYer
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posted on
08/07/2008 6:26:13 AM PDT
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NYer
("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
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08/07/2008 6:26:44 AM PDT
by
NYer
("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
To: NYer
Dr August Accetta, California, has carried out a fascinating experiment in which he injected himself with a radioactive compound used in medical imaging to show up internal organs. He then assumed the pose of the man imaged on the TS and a gamma camera imaged the radioactivity emanating from his body. The results astonishingly replicated most of the features of the image on the TS. So there you have it. The TS story is still running strongly. We await the results of the Oxford radio carbon dating.
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Wow.
Will this be the definitive opinion?
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posted on
08/07/2008 6:34:30 AM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
Dr August Accetta, California, has carried out a fascinating experiment in which he injected himself with a radioactive compound used in medical imaging to show up internal organs. He then assumed the pose of the man imaged on the TS and a gamma camera imaged the radioactivity emanating from his body. The results astonishingly replicated most of the features of the image on the TS.... ....right before the California lab was destroyed by something still considered "top secret" by the U.S. Army.
To: trisham
Will this be the definitive opinion?No matter what Oxford presents, there will be skeptics.
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posted on
08/07/2008 6:53:04 AM PDT
by
Pistolshot
(Leadership without experience is dangerous. - Lindsey Graham NO B.O.)
To: NYer
I’ve always surmised that the image was due to ionizing radiation emanating from a piece of statuary made of rock containing radioactive materials. The early Byzantine history of the Image of Edessa claims that the original stood untouched in the walls of Edessa for five hundred years, and was found in the company of an exact duplicate of the cloth image on a “tile.”
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posted on
08/07/2008 6:57:02 AM PDT
by
Mr Ramsbotham
(Barack Obama--the first black Jimmy Carter.)
To: Pistolshot; NYer
Unfortunately, you are probably right.
This will be interesting, regardless of the outcome.
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posted on
08/07/2008 7:05:22 AM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: trisham
Not sure about the section of the Shroud that the Oxford samples have been taken. If there are from the proper area around the original portions and not the added pieces from the fire damage, we might get realistic data.
It will be interesting to see what the newer technologies produce for results.
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posted on
08/07/2008 7:11:36 AM PDT
by
Pistolshot
(Leadership without experience is dangerous. - Lindsey Graham NO B.O.)
To: NYer
So now we’re supposed to trust academia? They can’t even tell the truth about economics.
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posted on
08/07/2008 7:32:36 AM PDT
by
dsc
To: NYer
I believe it is the genuine thing.
I hope the tests will confirm its authenticity.
The summary above omits numerous other facts which have lead Sindonologists to conclude a forgery is not possible here.
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posted on
08/07/2008 7:35:00 AM PDT
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
To: NYer
Byzantine tradition refers to a shroud bearing an image of Christ taken from Jerusalem to Turkey in the first century, then lost, rediscovered and brought to Constantinople in 944. Actually, the Mandylion of Edessa was discovered in Edessa in the 544 AD, so if the Shroud is the Mandylion, that brings it back to 544, not 944.
To: Swordmaker
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posted on
08/07/2008 8:08:27 AM PDT
by
GregoTX
(The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
To: Unam Sanctam
It looks like the writer just glossed over a step along the way. The Shroud was held in Edessa from the time of its discovery there in 544, until the Byzantine emperor had the cloth “transferred” (”expropriated” might be a better term) to Constantinople in 944.
To: trisham; Swordmaker
Will this be the definitive opinion? He will know.
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posted on
08/07/2008 8:14:03 AM PDT
by
NYer
("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
To: Alamo-Girl; albee; AnalogReigns; AnAmericanMother; Angelas; AniGrrl; annyokie; Aquinasfan; ...
Shroud article... PING!
If you want on or off the Shroud of Turin Ping List, Freepmail me.
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posted on
08/07/2008 8:18:28 AM PDT
by
Swordmaker
(Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
To: Mr Ramsbotham; Swordmaker
Ive always surmised that the image was due to ionizing radiation emanating from a piece of statuary made of rock containing radioactive materials. We have a shroud expert in the forum. In the meantime, click on the SHROUD STORY link posted above for the most current scientific research.
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posted on
08/07/2008 8:19:20 AM PDT
by
NYer
("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
To: NYer; trisham
This is not a very good recap of the current state of the art in Shroud research... I will look at it in more detail when I have time.
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posted on
08/07/2008 8:21:47 AM PDT
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Swordmaker
(Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
To: Swordmaker
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posted on
08/07/2008 8:24:15 AM PDT
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trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: NYer
I believe this is the Shroud of Christ...
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