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To: thefrankbaum

>> Yes, there were homosexuals ordained. That was wrong. The Church has never taught it was correct.

Not according to the President of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops —

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/29/AR2005112901852.html

“If that [pastoral charity] becomes paramount in his ministry, even though he might have a homosexual orientation, then he can minister and he can minister celibately and chastely.”

Thus, according to Bishop William Skylstad, Priests with homosexual proclivities are absolutely acceptable, so long as they’re celibate.

>> You just admitted that some Protestants TEACH what I called “me-and-Jesus” theology (you claim it is deemphasising sin and emphasising comfort).

I admitted to the existence of more lighthearted services. I never admitted the existence of a shallow Protestant theology.

>> And what the heck is the “Protestant Church at large”? Is that Anglicans, Lutherans, Calvinists, Methodists, Shakers, Baptists, etc. all coming together?

I wasn’t the one who made the sweeping generalization to a shallow Protestant theology. I wasn’t the one who initially lumped Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, etc. together into one shallow bunch. I simply accepted your premise that Protestants could be viewed as a single unit.

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36 posted on 06/23/2008 1:29:19 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor
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To: Hemorrhage
Thus, according to Bishop William Skylstad, Priests with homosexual proclivities are absolutely acceptable, so long as they’re celibate.

Okay, it gets thorny here. But, you're right - I misspoke. The USCCB said that. I'm going to have a post below this responding to another post directed at me regarding teaching authority, etc. so please take a gander at that.

I wasn’t the one who made the sweeping generalization to a shallow Protestant theology. I wasn’t the one who initially lumped Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans, etc. together into one shallow bunch. I simply accepted your premise that Protestants could be viewed as a single unit.

I actually double-checked my original comment before posting to ensure I didn't call all Protestant theology shallow. I said "some branches" - the top-level "Protestant" label applies to Christians who left Rome and rejected her authority. I still maintain Rick Warren theology is shallow. I wouldn't make such a statement about Lutheranism, Calvinism, Anglicanism. I think they are flawed theologies, but certainly not shallow.

43 posted on 06/23/2008 2:02:46 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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