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Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

I do NOT feel that you have even heard that we don't think the the definitions and such are not, in our view" doctrines of men (and that consequently that passage, excellent though it be, does not apply, in our view, to the Magisterium because it is not "of men".)

I do understand that.

But my personal epistemology is such that I do not agree.

The indwelling Spirit has not yet authenticated to me that the words of the Magisterium are His own. If He ever does, then I will receive them that way.

Until then, they remain at a certainty level of 8, 10 or 11 to me.

To God be the glory!

I KNOW that! Jeepers! I KNOW that. I'm OKAY with that! If you DID agree you'd me over in the next pew fiddling with your beads. (In the words of the great Tom Lehr - or however you spell it, The Vatican Rag:

Get down there upon your knees
Fiddle with your Rosaries
Bow your head with deep respect and
Genuflect!
Genuflect!
Genuflect!

Do what ever steps you want if
You have cleared them with the Pontiff.
Everybody says his own
Kyrie Eleison
Doin' the Vatican RAG!)

"Everybody say his own//Kyrei Eleison" is one of the great rhymes of the 20th century.