The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

[Quix]

Every RC and every Protty has their own personal interpretation of Scripture

REGARDLESS

of what the

RC magicsterical has to say

and

REGARDLESS

of what the

PROTTY magicstericals have to say.

That’s the nature of being human.

There is not any 100% identical transmission of understanding, values, beliefs, perspective, interpretation between anyone short of some miracle of God or manipulation of brainwaves by some exhotic technology—which would stop when the technology was withdrawn.

I do not believe the RC notion of what YOPIOS means and equals fits my experience as a Protty any more than RC’s think some of our descriptions of what venerating Mary means to RC’s.

However, I am keenly aware that evidently quite a number of RC’s are utterly 100% convinced that

THEY have a 100% accurate, true, applicable

understanding of Prottys and Protty’s YOPIOS

while they see Prottys as having a 0.000000000% understanding of RC’s and Mary veneraton/worship.

Cute that.

The RC DOUBLE STANDARD DOGMA strikes again.

[Quix]

Thank you.

Your vote of confidence in my mental and emotional health is very touching.

/s

[mgist]

Faith Alone condemned?

Faith alone is not condemned. Scripture alone is. It is because it does NOT call for "Scripture Alone" anywhere in the Bible.

[Quix]

I’m a strong believer in honor to whom honor is due.

. . . to a point . . . LOL.

[Quix]

Unless they’ve come from Mexico, Philippines . . . and other such places.

[Quix]

On the whole I don’t think of you as thin-skinned or brittle.

And I trust God to show where any such may be of concern to Him to any particle of a degree in any particle of an area.

[Quix]

I personally don’t need to see such a dialogue as a

zero-sum anything.

[wmfights]

Faith alone is not condemned.

I believe the latin is Sola Fide.

Scripture alone is.

Let me ask you what you believe we mean by Sola Scriptura. Why do you think your Church condemns it?

[netmilsmom]

>>Did you also notice that Scripture is silent concerning Mary after the Ressurection?<<

Acts 1:14
She didn’t disappear!

[wmfights]

Faith alone is not condemned.

Council of Trent — which makes faith and good works co-ordinate sources of justification, laying the chief stress upon works. Protestantism does not depreciate good works; but it denies their value as sources or conditions of justification, and insists on them as the necessary fruits of faith, and evidence of justification.

It took a little digging, but I got this from New Advent. If works are critical or as it states "co-ordinate" it is not Sola Fide, or Faith Alone.

[mgist]

The chruch doesn’t actually condemn Sola Scriptura, I don’t think they go around condemning things, they simply don’t agree and provide guidance. There is nothing in the bible that says we should only believe stricly what is written in the Bible alone.

[wmfights]

There is nothing in the bible that says we should only believe stricly what is written in the Bible alone.

I think this might be where RC's get off track about Sola Scriptura. There are two understandings of the term.

First, that all that is necessary to come to Faith in Jesus Christ is contained in Scripture. Second, that no doctrine, dogma, religious practice should be followed if it is not clearly found to be supported in Scripture. It is the second definition that has caused all the angst because it supersedes any claimed authority of any body of clerics.

[mgist]

Dig away my friend, I don't see how your post equates with condemnation. Like I have said. The church promotes the 10 Commandments and that we be Christ-like; Both of which are represented in good works. I think good works are the fruit of our faith. I'll bet that is how the church explains that also. I look into it tomorrow. Many blessings!

Unlike what some of you believe, we study the bible, rarely the Cathechism - unfortunately.

[Petronski]

Second, that no doctrine, dogma, religious practice should be followed if it is not clearly found to be supported in Scripture.

Yet sola scriptura is a doctrine, dogma or religious practice that is not clearly found to be supported in Scripture.

The irony is blinding.

[Petronski]

It is the second definition that has caused all the angst because it supersedes any claimed authority of any body of clerics.

...in favor of the claimed authority of a body of iconoclasts.

[mgist]

First, that all that is necessary to come to Faith in Jesus Christ is contained in Scripture

Yes, but that can happen at any time, even at the time of death.

Second, that no doctrine, dogma, religious practice should be followed if it is not clearly found to be supported in Scripture. It is the second definition that has caused all the angst because it supersedes any claimed authority of any body of clerics.

Where is that in the bible??????

[Alamo-Girl]

LOLOL! That is precious! Thank you for sharing, dear brother in Christ!

[Quix]

Some of us see that

clearly

rather differently.

[Quix]

Some of us are curious . . .

are iconoclasts ranked

higher

or lower

than Brothers and Sisters in Christ?

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so very much for sharing your insights and testimony! And thank you for your encouragement!