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The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: Judith Anne; Alex Murphy; alpha-8-25-02; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; Forest Keeper; ..

Ahhhhhh but the facts are otherwise . . .

The RC perspective reads all kinds of stuff INTO those verses.

The RC perspective construes it to mean that graduated believers are like angels in all or virtually all respects . . . INCLUDING ministering to believers still in this sphere

WHEN IN FACT, THERE’S NONE OF THAT REMOTELY IN THE VERSE AT ALL.


2,361 posted on 06/04/2008 7:18:27 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: netmilsmom

Their own personal interpretation of Scripture.


2,362 posted on 06/04/2008 7:18:42 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Well, it is. Protties can be so derogatory about RC beliefs, traditions, practices, it’s tempting to reply in kind. Surely you have felt the same thing, Thou?


2,363 posted on 06/04/2008 7:22:00 PM PDT by Judith Anne (I love all Protestants, and pray that Mary will soften their hearts and open their eyes to the truth)
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To: netmilsmom

But, but, that’s so Catholic! It can’t actually be from the Bible.


2,364 posted on 06/04/2008 7:23:18 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Judith Anne; Religion Mod

no,moi, I live in terror of the religion mod


2,365 posted on 06/04/2008 7:24:01 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Judith Anne

Be patient, they may have an answer after they Google it.


2,366 posted on 06/04/2008 7:24:46 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: netmilsmom; Alex Murphy; alpha-8-25-02; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; Forest Keeper; ...

Trouble is, dear heart,

that’s wimping out, imho.

SCRIPTURE CLEARLY SAYS WE MUST work out OUR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING including listening to the still small voice of our Lord.

HE SAID HIS SHEEP HEAR HIS VOICE.

If that’s not happening, either the individual must not be His sheep or must not be listening.

Sure the still small voice of The Lord can be hard to distinguish from our own mental noise etc.

But that’s part of the training—not unlike my training as a Navy Radioman in listening to morse code. We learned the code first. Then we had to copy it amidst all manner of other noise and interference. We had to filter it out from the noise. It was still taught in 1971 because the human ear could do better at such filtering than electronics.

Sure we all make mistakes. We make mistakes in all facets of our Christian lives.

And God helps us learn and grow from them, when we are cooperative.

The goal is to train us to rule and reign with Him throughout eternity. Not to always be comfortable here.


AND, SADLY, it’s a brazen false delusion to fantasize that the magisterical has been

LESS FLAWED in their assumptions, teachings, discernments over the centuries than you have in your Christian walk.

The UNrubberized histories are emphatically clear that such is NOT the case. If anything the

“TRUTH BY POLITICAL POWER MONGERING ELITE” has done a worse job at ferreting out Biblical truth and Holy Spirit direction than you have.

imho, of course.


2,367 posted on 06/04/2008 7:24:46 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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Well, good night all.


2,368 posted on 06/04/2008 7:24:53 PM PDT by Judith Anne (I love all Protestants, and pray that Mary will soften their hearts and open their eyes to the truth)
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To: Judith Anne

Good night Judith Anne


2,369 posted on 06/04/2008 7:26:30 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: netmilsmom

I think in the context and word choices, it does say they are not.

Arguing otherwise from silence seems to be an RC magisterical habit and a deadly flawed one, at that.


2,370 posted on 06/04/2008 7:26:57 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Judith Anne

I’ve been through all that before many times hereon.

I don’t care to go there on this thread. I’m semiretired without a license.

My PhD was in clincial psych from the oldest, first professional school which had a lot of famous folks retired to San Diego that taught there in their retirement.

Beyond that . . . think whatever is tempting to think.


2,371 posted on 06/04/2008 7:31:17 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Judith Anne

LOL, I think they get it from the St. Michael prayer. “Thrust into hell, Satan and all evil spirits who roam throughout the world, seeking the ruin of souls.”


2,372 posted on 06/04/2008 7:32:44 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: netmilsmom

I think it’s certainly true that folks who expect to be offended are likely to be offended.

And some folks seem to feed off of offense as a major energizing part of their life.


2,373 posted on 06/04/2008 7:33:29 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: tiki

No we do not, and I posted the relevant scripture


2,374 posted on 06/04/2008 7:33:33 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Judith Anne

I’ve never construed myself as particularly responsible for others feelings.

I try to be responsible for my behaviors and leave others responsibility for their feelings about my behaviors.


2,375 posted on 06/04/2008 7:35:22 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

>>Trouble is, dear heart,

that’s wimping out, imho.<<

And I respect that. I’m going to try it with the extra helping of jelly for a while and see how it goes.

With all Our Lord’s blessings, I’ll see some good things come from it.

I may not change a million hearts but maybe I can find a ground that we can all stand on.

Night all!


2,376 posted on 06/04/2008 7:37:01 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: tiki

>>LOL, I think they get it from the St. Michael prayer. “Thrust into hell, Satan and all evil spirits who roam throughout the world, seeking the ruin of souls.”<<

I love that prayer!


2,377 posted on 06/04/2008 7:37:57 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Judith Anne

I Cor 13 is one of my most favorite chapters.

I earnestly endeavor to take it to heart in virtually all I do.

I’m trying to memorize it in Chinese.


2,378 posted on 06/04/2008 7:38:51 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Judith Anne

The jury is still out, in my view.

Most of the benefits from that sort of communication tend to come years later.


2,379 posted on 06/04/2008 7:40:21 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Petronski

I’m quite familiar with the word . . .

awww never mind.


2,380 posted on 06/04/2008 7:41:32 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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