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To: SoothingDave
I may say that gasoline is profitable so that the motoring man may be fully equipped for every good journey. Your analogy of gasoline is self defeating, because you clearly would not say "fully" equipped for the journey, since that is patently untrue. But Paul does indeed use a phrase that means "completely accomplished", "nothing left to do," and he attributes that possibility to scripture that existed before his death.

BTW I do not consider myself a protestant and I'm trying to respect the Catholic faith. I'm just looking for the nucleus of the gospel that is sufficient to make us complete. So far, I find that anything beyond simple statements of the Bible seems superfluous (1 Corinthians 15:1ff lays it out clearly).

660 posted on 05/05/2008 3:08:09 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Chaguito
I may say that gasoline is profitable so that the motoring man may be fully equipped for every good journey.

Your analogy of gasoline is self defeating, because you clearly would not say "fully" equipped for the journey, since that is patently untrue.

But it is true. Is gasoline not profitable? Is it not useful? Do you not need it to be fully equipped?

What is "patently untrue"?

Just because you want so badly for tis passage to make the sola scriptura argument, want it with all of your heart and soul for it to be true does not make the English language changes its rules.

But Paul does indeed use a phrase that means "completely accomplished", "nothing left to do," and he attributes that possibility to scripture that existed before his death.

No one doubts what you say here. The question is one of sufficiency. The text does not say "only" Scripture. I'm sorry for you, but it does not. Scripture is necessary, but not sufficient.

Do you know what that means?

I'm just looking for the nucleus of the gospel that is sufficient to make us complete. So far, I find that anything beyond simple statements of the Bible seems superfluous

Why are you looking for a bare minimum? What is the point of that?

665 posted on 05/05/2008 3:35:00 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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