[SoothingDave]

I believe an intercessory prayer to be a prayer of faith, having no intercessory power in it's own right, as we submit everything to the will of the Father, by the authority of the Son who is the intercessor (High Priest). Had we intercessory power of our own, those prerequisites would not apply.

Now take what you just said and apply it to Mary and the saints in Heaven. Our beliefs about their having "no intercessory power" of their own absent the will of the Father is exactly identical.

So you do understand the role of Mary or a saint.

[roamer_1]

Now take what you just said and apply it to Mary and the saints in Heaven. Our beliefs about their having "no intercessory power" of their own absent the will of the Father is exactly identical.

Oh, we are largely in agreement on the structure and mechanics of the thing. Where we differ is in the praying to others rather than going right to the Wellspring. That is a very serious difference. I may as well be praying to you.

We also do not recognize praying to those who are dead, and we recognize every Christian as a saint, having no need for the pantheon of beatified saints as offered by the RCC. I find it to be confusing, as Christ said we are all brothers, with none being lesser or greater, to include your beatified saints and Mary as well.

So you do understand the role of Mary or a saint.

I understand what you present it to be, I just disagree.