Will the Pope's Pronouncement Set Ecumenism Back a Hundred Years? (Challenge to Apostolicity)

Progressive Theology ^ | July 07

[irishtenor]

***I doubt that any true Christian would pray with Christ-cursing Jews, except for their salvation, so that they too may come to Christ.***

On the contrary, when my Jewish step-father comes visiting, I pray for the meal in the name of Jesus. Occasionally, I will ask him to lead the prayer. He prays in Hebrew.

[kosta50]

You are expert at running off at the mouth, please be expert enough to show where I mocked or showed distrust of the Early Church Fathers

Then we have something in common. Try re-reading your post No. 11,071.

remember the Canon was set before the Church was thoroughly corrupted

LOL!!! When was that? If I recall properly, it was +Ignatius (end of 1st century, beginning of the second -- doesn't get much ealrier than that save for the Apostles!) saying soemthing about certain heretics!. I suppose you would say the Church was thoroughly corrupted by then already, and all of the deuterocannicals have not even been written yet!

Also show Scripture which supports your claim " "We are forbidden to privately interpret the Bible. The Bible itself says so

You quote 2 Paul 1 correclty, but I suggest 1 Cor 12:30 is quite explicit.

[kosta50]

The same attitude you (Orthodox/Catholic) still have toward women

Which is what? That women can't be priests? Well, men can't have babies. Are you going to call God "misogynistic" too? Get real.

[kosta50]

Your choice. Not mine.

[kosta50]

If he did that, he would be privately interpreting scripture

By necessity. You are beginning to see the error of Protestant ways. :)

[OLD REGGIE]

I hope he wasn't praying in a German synagogue, except for the salvation of the Jews. Rabbinical Judaism cursed Jesus of Nazareth in Jamnia (90 AD) and called on all the Jews to do the same. I doubt that any true Christian would pray with Christ-cursing Jews, except for their salvation, so that they too may come to Christ.

This is not only an example of hate it is a baldfaced lie.

You are obligated to show some proof to justify such hate speech. It is cowardly to throw out such trash without any kind of documentation.

[OLD REGGIE]

If he did that, he would be privately interpreting scripture.

Nah! There is no such Scripture.

[kosta50]

This is not only an example of hate it is a baldfaced lie...

Are you calling me a "liar?"

You are obligated to show some proof to justify such hate speech. It is cowardly to throw out such trash without any kind of documentation

Are you calling me a "coward?" Are you saying what I said was "trash?"

By saying I "hope" he wasn't praying...I "doubt" any true Christian...makes it is a bold faced lie, cowardly trash and "hate" speech?

I suggest you crack open a book and read up on what transpired in Jamnia 1900 plus years ago. And keep your ad hominem comments to yourself.

[irishtenor]

You wouldn’t pray with a Jew? Why not? Would you pray with a Protestant? Why or why not?

[kosta50]

You wouldn’t pray with a Jew? Why not? Would you pray with a Protestant? Why or why not?

I would and I do pray for a Jew and any non-Christian, that God may open their eyes and bring them to Christ.

I would not pray with a Protestant because we do not believe one and the same thing. I would, however, pray that Protestants return to the Church.

I only pray with members of the One Holy Apostolic Church. There is only one truth; not many. The true path is narrow, not wide. God is absolute, not relative.

[irishtenor]

So, if you sat down at work, or in a diner with a few friends (assuming you have some) and one is a Jew and one is a Protestant, you wouldn’t say a blessing on the meal?

[OLD REGGIE]

Then we have something in common. Try re-reading your post No. 11,071.

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I may be guilty of mocking the Magisterium, and those who hunt around to find a few "majic" supporting words of the Early Church Fathers but there is no mockery of the Fathers.

You quote 2 Paul 1 correclty, but I suggest 1 Cor 12:30 is quite explicit.

1 Corinthians 12:
28* And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, then healers, helpers, administrators, speakers in various kinds of tongues.
29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles?
30 Do all possess gifts of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?
31 But earnestly desire the higher gifts. And I will show you a still more excellent way.

It's just as well you don't attempt to interpret Scripture.

[irishtenor]

LOL. Another point for OLD REGGIE. Good shot, old bean.

[OLD REGGIE]

Which is what? That women can't be priests? Well, men can't have babies. Are you going to call God "misogynistic" too? Get real.

You are making no sense whatsoever. Off your medication?

[kosta50]

I would thank God for His blessings for all mankind. That’s not praying “with” those who are not of my faith.

[kosta50]

Can’t handle the heat without getting personal, huh?

[kosta50]

Can’t handle the heat without getting personal, huh?

[kosta50]

double post...sticky fingers. Sorry.

[kosta50]

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

Not to my knowledge...what about you?

I Cor 12:30 "Do all interpret?" Yes or no?

[irishtenor]

Context.