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To: Edward Watson

The Mormon “eternal” God was once a man, meaning he was born, meaning he’s not eternal. You redefine the word eternal to mean “not eternal” and then get on your high horse. You have been sucked into a cult. Do you really think I’m the one lying here?


566 posted on 07/10/2007 3:15:47 PM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Greg F

No, it is you who is misrepresenting what “eternal” means. You are assuming it means “self-existent” despite the lack of any proof. I can cite numerous biblical precedents where olam is used in reference to things that had a beginning. You then blissfully disregard the fact the same Hebrew word is used for things that are obviously not self-existent. Who exactly is twisting words here?

What God was before he created the universe, with its space and time is irrelevant to the fact Mormonism teaches he existed before the universe was created. Thus he is “eternal” since he existed before time.

Regardless, now that I know what kind of person you are; I’ll keep your character in mind whenever I respond to you. a “Christian” indeed.


571 posted on 07/10/2007 3:23:43 PM PDT by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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To: Greg F
You redefine the word eternal to mean “not eternal” and then get on your high horse.

No; he's re-defined 'circular logic' so YOUR argument is just so silly - or else...

You are a LIAR!


639 posted on 07/11/2007 5:28:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Greg F; Edward Watson
The Mormon “eternal” God was once a man, meaning he was born, meaning he’s not eternal.

I had this discussion earlier, Temporal mechanics says that if a being (God) exists outside of time, then there is never a "Time" when he did not exists because he can travel to that point easier than I can go to the Kitchen. God is eternal, and was at some point a mortal, if you can't understand that, fine, but don't say I can't believe what I do.

God is eternal

God was once a man.

Both are true, both are Mormon Belief.

You redefine the word eternal to mean “not eternal” and then get on your high horse.

Truth is, our job is to put ourselves in better alignment with it. I am doing my best, but I have had your perspective, and honestly, I feel I have grown to know more than that. You will now probably talk about my horse, just keep it nice, he has feelings too.

You have been sucked into a cult. Do you really think I’m the one lying here?

I prefer to think that you are doing the best you can with what you have and that it's a shame you will not accept more, or even Pray to find out if there is more. Why on earth would you behave like the Israelites in the desert who upon being bitten by the fiery serpents would not look at the serpent on a pole Moses put up for them to be cured by? Look to God, ask him, do not go by the strength of your own knowledge for that way dies death. Pray, why on earth or in heaven would God not answer such a request?

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795 posted on 07/12/2007 9:42:51 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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