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To: Diego1618

By what authority do you make these claims? Are you saying Jesus was lying when He said He would never leave the Church and that the gates of Hell would not prevail against it (Matthew 16:18)? Let me remind you of what Jesus said:

"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" John 14:16

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you." John 14:26

"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning." John 15:26-27

"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come." John 16:13

You are saying the Holy Spirit left the Church and it was led astray. You need to rethink your position since you are directly contradicting Holy Scripture!


2,063 posted on 03/21/2007 6:30:05 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (?Wherever the Catholic sun doth shine, there's always laughter and good red wine." Hilaire Belloc)
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To: nanetteclaret
You are saying the Holy Spirit left the Church and it was led astray. You need to rethink your position since you are directly contradicting Holy Scripture!

The Holy Spirit never joined your church...Or any church...The Holy Spirit indwells saved Christians, not churches...

A Christian that will study the bible easily and clearly sees this...

And beyond that, all saved Christians have confirmation from the Spirit itself that these things are true...

2,068 posted on 03/21/2007 7:15:40 AM PDT by Iscool (There will be NO peace on earth, NOR good will toward men UNTIL there is Glory to God in the Highest)
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To: nanetteclaret
Are you saying Jesus was lying when He said He would never leave the Church and that the gates of Hell would not prevail against it. (Matthew 16:18)

Let me ask you....what exactly does this above scripture say to you....anyway? What are the gates of hell...to you?

2,114 posted on 03/21/2007 8:45:24 PM PDT by Diego1618
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