Actually what I am saying is that Prophecies to Israel in the Latter days may not be to whom we think they are. The present day nation of Israel does not fit the description, nor has it fulfilled many of the prophecies to Abraham that we are familiar with in Genesis.
[Genesis 22:17-18] That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
As an example....when has the little country called Israel possessed the gates of their enemies....when have all the nations of the world been blessed by them?
[Genesis 17:3-4] And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
When has the little country in the middle east we call Israel.....ever been many nations?
I am not saying that salvation belongs to no one except Israelites.....I am saying when you read Bible prophecy to Israel it is probably not referring to some little country on the eastern shore of the Mediterranean.
Kerryusama - "Prophesy C is for the dude named Diego in California who has no blood relation to Abraham whatsoever, but has accepted Jesus Christ as his savior.."
Ping - His salvation is open to anyone that loves Him so perhaps there is no need for a Prophesy C, or those prophecies were covered in the others. To me, the Bible is essentially about one man's family and how others relate to Him.
Diego - I am not saying that salvation belongs to no one except Israelites.....I am saying when you read Bible prophecy to Israel it is probably not referring to some little country on the eastern shore of the Mediterranean.
Ping - I think there is no doubt who the prophecy to Israel is about. Who is the superpower of superpowers? Would they be left out of God's Word? Why are we One Nation Under God? Why do we help all other nations? Why do we feel such a strong allegiance to the Nation of Israel?
Why has this nation become so strong in such an incredibly short amount of time?
In my opinion, God is awakening His children as to who they are now.
Then, who do you think is being referred to?
Genesis 22:17-18 is most likely referring to the millenia. Ezekiel 37 sounds quite similar. However, don't you think that, through Christ, Abraham's seed has been multiplied to innumerable levels?
Genesis 17:3-4 are likely millenia related as well.
Personally, so much ground is covered in so few pages in Genesis, that I personally don't try to read too much into it. Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Daniel and the NT have much more detail, but still, not being a prophet, I tend to concentrate on what a Christian should do now and how to sanctify from past apostasies. Regardless of when Jesus is coming back, which we can't know anyhow, this commission is unmistakeable and transcends time:
Rev 12:17 So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.
I am also curious to know how profitable a discussion on prophesy can be with folks who can't even agree on the basics:
1Ti 1:6 For some men, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussion,
1Ti 1:7 wanting to be teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions.