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Catholic Church & Jesus Christ-Why No One Should Be A Catholic
Apostolic Messianic Fellowship ^ | August 30, 2005 | Why No One Should Be A Catholic

Posted on 03/04/2007 8:21:23 AM PST by Iscool

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To: Frank Sheed; trisham; wagglebee; Mad Dawg

Just checking and and moving out quickly. I am in charge of feeding over 100 people tonight at our Faith Formation 101 classes. Only soup and bread, but the set up, etc. takes time. (Oh, I've got to fold those tablescloths I just laundered.) Yep, my feet will be hurting tonight! LOL! Can't believe that someone came for the first time last week and then fired off about seven things that we did not do correctly. We have been doing this for the three years, and we never received anything like that. Maybe her husband ignored her that evening?? Who knows?

Little details.

Will see you all later -- probably will have over 300 posts to catch up on. LOL! Why is it we keep posting the same things -- even in different ways -- and people still seem not to get it?


1,301 posted on 03/07/2007 1:01:31 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Frank Sheed; trisham; wagglebee; Mad Dawg

Our priest is talking about "The Land Where Jesus Walked" as he shows his slides of the Holy Land. Should be fabulous since he is such and orthodox priest.


1,302 posted on 03/07/2007 1:02:27 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Why is it we keep posting the same things -- even in different ways -- and people still seem not to get it?

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I don't know, Salvation. I do know this, though. Wear sensible shoes tonight! :)

1,303 posted on 03/07/2007 1:03:19 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

**Wear sensible shoes tonight! :)**

Yes, the walking shoes that I took to Europe this last summer on the pilgrimage I went on.


1,304 posted on 03/07/2007 1:04:48 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
I saw something on EWTN the other day/night. It showed scenes of the Holy Land during the recitation of prayers.

Quite beautiful.

1,305 posted on 03/07/2007 1:05:45 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Salvation
Yes, the walking shoes that I took to Europe this last summer on the pilgrimage I went on.

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Good thinking. Do you have any photos you can share? It must have been an experience.

1,306 posted on 03/07/2007 1:07:01 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: faithplusnothing1; MarkBsnr
Do you think you can do something to lose it?

What MarkBsnr said!

You can simply not accept God's grace in the beginning.

Jn 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him

The Father calls...but you don't HAVE to answer.

You can also walk away from it. Doesn't mean that you "lose" the New Birth, but you can reject its benefits very easily.

Consider the parable of the prodigal son (Luke 15:11-32). Of course, when the son repented of his act and took the action of coming back home, the father immediately rejoiced, forgave him, and welcomed him back home. But what would have happened had the son NOT repented and simply stayed in the "far country?" The father didn't go to the other country and drag the kid back home by the scruff of the neck, did he? Rather, the kid had to become contrite and decide to come back home...

1,307 posted on 03/07/2007 1:13:44 PM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus CINO-RINO GRAZIE NO)
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To: faithplusnothing1

How to reject grace? Let us count the ways.

Blaspheming the Holy Spirit, for one; deciding on what is good or evil for ourselves or others without reference to God; creating one's own church.

Basically choosing hell over heaven.

St. Paul (1 Cor 3:12) says that it is up to every man to accept grace or to reject grace. That choice must be made every second of every minute of every day. It cannot be a one-off event. It must be continuous - to love God with your whole heart, your whole soul and your whole strength. One single event is enough to reject grace and you must take steps to regain it or else you remain in a state of sin or in a state without grace.


1,308 posted on 03/07/2007 1:18:36 PM PST by MarkBsnr (When you believe in nothing, then everything is acceptable.)
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To: Frank Sheed
Sir, the upper statement was a "personal aside to a friend," and your smarmy intrusion was rude.

I didn't know it was your personal thread.

1,309 posted on 03/07/2007 1:23:37 PM PST by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”)
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To: markomalley

Excellent illustration. Thank you.


1,310 posted on 03/07/2007 1:49:03 PM PST by MarkBsnr (When you believe in nothing, then everything is acceptable.)
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To: Salvation
You would be surprise how many times the Mother of God, Mary, IS mentioned in both books.

I think most of those instances are quite debatable.

1,311 posted on 03/07/2007 1:52:01 PM PST by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”)
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To: markomalley

I agree that when He draws you to Him you can reject. That's why we have free will. He comes to everyone. Thats why the bible states that no man will have an excuse. If you truly are trusting in Jesus and not your works, you are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise. He will in no wise cast you out. Jesus is not going to force you to accept his gift.


1,312 posted on 03/07/2007 1:52:22 PM PST by faithplusnothing1
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To: trisham
I did take photos but only with a throwaway camera.....so not very good. I have a digital camera on my wish list and would appreciate any suggestions for purchasing a middle to upper quality one. (Don't wnat one of the cheapie ones.)

Here's a travelogue and pictures I got off the internet of places where we were.

Welcome back, freeper Salvation! (Vanity)

1,313 posted on 03/07/2007 1:52:54 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation; Uncle Chip
This is from your post #1061, where you admit that James is the leader of the Jerusalem Church: Even though James may have been the leader of the Jerusalem church, I posted many instances where Peter ranked ahead of Peter. Peter was the first Pope.

But then you say this in post #1196: James was NOT the brother of Jesus, but the son of Zebedee.

Follow me: [Matthew 4:21] And going on from thence, he saw other two brethren, James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, in a ship with Zebedee their father, mending their nets; and he called them. This James is the James who is killed by Herod here: [Acts 12:1-2] Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church. And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.

The James who is the brother of Our Lord is still alive (three chapters later) because he is the leader of the Jerusalem Church attested to by scripture, Josephus and Eusebius.

[Acts 15:13] And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me.

[Eusebius, Church History, Book III, Chapter 22] as posted by Uncle Chip in #1292. "Brother of our Saviour"!

[Josephus, Antiquities, Book XX, Chapter IX, Paragraph I] Festus was now dead, and Albinus was but upon the road; so he assembled the sanhedrim of judges, and brought before them the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James.

You are getting these two different people, both named James, mixed up!

1,314 posted on 03/07/2007 2:04:09 PM PST by Diego1618
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To: Salvation

Wow. There are photos of some spectacular churches on that thread. I saw a travelogue recently of Poland, and it is a very beautiful country. Some day, perhaps we will find our way there.


1,315 posted on 03/07/2007 2:09:53 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: faithplusnothing1; Iscool
Could either of you explain to me what all of the "works" or lack thereof,subject to affirmation or caution in several letters to the seven churches in Chapters 2 and 3 of Revelations,mean?

It seems to me that failure to perform will lead to a failure to "overcome" and does not auger well for the churches who don't get back on track. Good "work" is acknowledged and pleasing to God it would seem. I have asked non-Catholic Christians on these threads several times but never have received an answer.

1,316 posted on 03/07/2007 2:40:06 PM PST by saradippity
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To: wagglebee

Now don't go ruining this by bringing facts into the equation. Dude, did you not read the article....facts aren't the issue here.


1,317 posted on 03/07/2007 3:08:39 PM PST by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: OLD REGGIE

No. But the fact that I am a Catholic, from a family of Catholics, educated in Catholic schools, leader of Catholic groups, mother and wife to Catholics, friend to numerous Catholics and interact on a daily basis with Catholics and teach Catholics means that I do have a SIGNIFICALLY BETTER UNDERSTANDING of what Catholics do and do not believe and what they do and do not read.

But keep insisting you know what Catholics do. It's not like we are ever going to make any progress here.


1,318 posted on 03/07/2007 3:12:59 PM PST by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: OLD REGGIE

A lie is an intentional deception.

Peter's sin is that his courage failed...


1,319 posted on 03/07/2007 3:36:02 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Heus, hic nos omnes in agmine sunt! Deo volente rivoque non adsurgente)
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To: Iscool

Reread the first chapter of Luke, blessed "among women" has a very specific meaning and it goes back to the third chapter of Genesis.


1,320 posted on 03/07/2007 3:37:38 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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