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To: HarleyD; Blogger

So?


7,986 posted on 01/29/2007 1:48:39 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex; HarleyD

So, Scripture does not teach that God foresaw what we would do and chose us on that basis. Such a concept is nonsense and makes God's decisions dependent on creatures who would never choose him outside of His direct intervention.

Your view is unscriptural, as Augustine was pointing out in his arguments against Pelagius. In fact, it is anti-Scriptural "Romans 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy." 9:25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.

What I do not understand, or maybe I do, is why the aversion to allowing God to be God. He made us. He can do with us as He wishes. If He wishes to show mercy to some of us but not to others, then fine. He is God, He can do so. We are not God. We have no right to tell Him what is acceptable to do.

We do not see man seeking out God first in Scripture. Rather, it is God who goes after man. God chose everyone who would serve Him. He still does. And all that God chooses will come. Christ will not lose any of them.


8,015 posted on 01/29/2007 3:25:21 PM PST by Blogger
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To: annalex; Blogger

My, my. How far the Church has slipped in Pelagism not to recognize the error.


8,016 posted on 01/29/2007 3:45:32 PM PST by HarleyD (Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in his guilt - Lev 19:17)
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