To: kosta50; xzins; Kolokotronis
"Second, the Church does teach, proclaim and affirm that the belief in her Ever-Virginity is an unbroken belief held by the Church since the beginning."
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Origen 182-251AD commenting about the dubious origin of the "Protoevangelium of James" also commented that that while the notion (perpetual virginity) might seem pious, it was not unlikely that the obvious interpretation of Scripture (that Mary bore children for Joseph) was true and acceptable.
Clearly the perpetual virginity of Mary was not an established fact in the early church.
787 posted on
12/08/2006 8:54:19 AM PST by
wmfights
(Romans 8:37-39)
To: wmfights; kosta50; Kolokotronis; P-Marlowe; Forest Keeper; blue-duncan
Thanks, WmF. I figured that this "tradition" prong required a bit of cherry-picking so far as the perpetual virginity was concerned. Doesn't sound like it's a solid case across the board, does it?
789 posted on
12/08/2006 8:58:43 AM PST by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
To: wmfights; xzins; Kolokotronis; annalex
Origen 182-251AD commenting about the dubious origin of the "Protoevangelium of James" also commented that that while the notion... Origen was in his heart never a Christian. His later embrace of Gnosticism proves it.
You also must understand that no particular Father of the Church (and Origne is not one of them) could never decide what the whole Church believed. That was plainly made clear at Ecumenical Councils, who spoke on behalf of the whole Church based on what is know as the consensus patrium.
797 posted on
12/08/2006 9:19:43 AM PST by
kosta50
(Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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