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To: kosta50; annalex; D-fendr
You stated: "I got news for you: there are many, probably most Christians who not only wish to live in sin, but actually do." - Post 6888

I stated: "You forgot a third choice; they're not really Christians."

If people deliberately want to live in sin, I doubt very seriously if they are Christians regardless of what they call themselves.

7,002 posted on 01/19/2007 5:25:00 PM PST by HarleyD ("...even the one whom He will choose, He will bring near Himself." Num 16:5)
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To: HarleyD; annalex; D-fendr
If people deliberately want to live in sin, I doubt very seriously if they are Christians regardless of what they call themselves

Harley why do people sin if not because they choose to? Living in sin is no one's long-term goal, but when faced with temptations they choose temptations.

That's not living in sin, that's committing sin. People tell little white lies, not because they want to live a life of lying, but because a little white lie seems to be a better alternative at times than telling the truth.

People weigh their options and then choose. Christians always have a choice. They don't always make the right one. They sin willingly and knowingly, like the rest of humanity.

7,014 posted on 01/19/2007 6:14:24 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: HarleyD
If people deliberately want to live in sin, I doubt very seriously if they are Christians regardless of what they call themselves.

ROTFLOL

How is it that some Christian posters don't understand the obvious?

7,054 posted on 01/20/2007 7:03:46 AM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: HarleyD; kosta50; D-fendr
If people deliberately want to live in sin, I doubt very seriously if they are Christians regardless of what they call themselves.

Yes, this is the Catholic view as well. A priest should refuse to absolve a sin if there is no evidence of a desire to amend it. The "purpose of amendment" might be not sufficient to overcome the sin, so the sin will recur, but if the purpose of amentment is completely lacking, then there should be no absolution, and consequently the sinner cannot take communion.

He is, of course, encouraged to repent and fix the problem, but till such time he is excommunicated.

A typical case would be one who is engaged in sexual cohabitation outside of marriage, and has no intention to sever the illicit relationship.

7,080 posted on 01/20/2007 1:42:41 PM PST by annalex
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