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To: Buggman; .30Carbine; Quix; P-Marlowe; hosepipe; wmfights; Marysecretary; kosta50; annalex; ...
But then, that's the point: It wasn't always good enough for the Apostles. If they saw fit to go back and render a fresh translation from the original Hebrew text in many cases rather than simply citing the LXX consistently, then we should follow their example and do the same.

A most excellent point, dear Buggman! Thank you for your insights!

Truly, I am a sponge for ancient manuscripts, but I take nothing as words of God without the direct authentication of the Holy Spirit! He brings His own words alive within, the words of man are dead by comparison.

It amazes me that so many Christians who confess that Jesus Christ is God from the beginning, that everything that was made was made by Him and for Him, that He was born of a virgin, made the blind see, turned water into wine, walked on water, raised the dead, healed the lame, died on a cross and was resurrected, and now sits at the right hand of God the Father and will come again --- believing all of these supernatural truths ---- would nevertheless demand empirical evidence (archeology, carbon dating, etc.) and a “chain of custody” before they will take the plugs out of their ears to listen for the words of God!

As if it were possible for science to authenticate God’s words. Jeepers… talk about an observer problem.

Only God knows Himself and there is only one way to know Him:

For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. – 1 Cor 2:11-14

Again, I assert that the Word of God is not a collection of text on paper, pixels on a monitor, dye on papyrus or pressure waves (sound). He is alive!

Jesus, The Word of God (John 1, Rev 19) was speaking to those who were physically hearing Him but could not spiritually hear Him (“ears to hear”) in this passage – but these words are recorded for our benefit, so that we will understand the power of God:

But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: - John 10:26-27

Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. – Matt 22:29


6,918 posted on 01/19/2007 9:06:13 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; .30Carbine; cornelis
[ Again, I assert that the Word of God is not a collection of text on paper, pixels on a monitor, dye on papyrus or pressure waves (sound). He is alive! ]

The very thing tradition and dogma trys to occlude..
Taking this very thing for granted (He is alive) trumps opinion.. or dead letters..
God(Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) is/are alive..
NOT a formulaic human observation..

6,925 posted on 01/19/2007 10:00:39 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Again, I assert that the Word of God is not a collection of text on paper, pixels on a monitor, dye on papyrus or pressure waves (sound). He is alive!
Jesus, The Word of God (John 1, Rev 19) was speaking to those who were physically hearing Him but could not spiritually hear Him (“ears to hear”) in this passage – but these words are recorded for our benefit, so that we will understand the power of God:


But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: - John 10:26-27
Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. – Matt 22:29

= = = =

INDEED! INDEED! AMEN!


7,143 posted on 01/20/2007 8:36:05 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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