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To: The_Reader_David; kosta50

"It might be good for you to remember the outcome of the Palamite Controversy: the hesychasts see the Uncreate Light. A merely 'subjective' experience would be created, and indeed a poor sort of created light without even such objective reality as the sun shining on our face."

Excellent TRD!


6,672 posted on 01/17/2007 8:05:01 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; The_Reader_David
The Uncreate Light reported by the hesychasts should be sufficient reason for all of us to drop everything we are doing, give up our wordly possessions, spouses, children and money, and run into a monastery to live for nothing but that moment.

Of course, not all monastics experience the Uncreate Light, so it is not a certainty by any stretch. Hence, the seed of doubt, if not denial, and a decision to stay with what we objectively have in our hands and hope for the best.

Why, even Apostles didn't really believe until they saw the Resurrected Christ! And they have seen the miracles Christ performed. And which one of us is so objectively convinced in our faith that, if we heared a voice that ordered us to leave out families, or to have them killed, would comply in perfect obedience rather than first seek medical help?

As I said before (and I don't mean this in any derogatory or insulting manner), let the one who lives 100% according to the Bible, who keeps all commandments, fasts without a fail, lives a spotless Christian life, etc. lecture me about faith.

6,675 posted on 01/17/2007 8:52:27 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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