To: kosta50; blue-duncan; bornacatholic; Dr. Eckleburg; Kolokotronis; Blogger; xzins
Nothing to twist. If it's in the canon then it is inspired by God:
The Bible is the divinely inspired Word of God (II Timothy 3:16), and is a crucial part of God's self-revelation to the human race. The Old Testament tells the history of that revelation from Creation through the Age of the Prophets. The New Testament records the birth and life of Jesus as well as the writings of His Apostles. It also includes some of the history of the early Church and especially sets forth the Church's apostolic doctrine. Though these writings were read in the Churches from the time they first appeared, the earliest listings of all the New Testament books exactly as we know them today is found in the 33rd Canon of a local council held at Carthage in 318, and in a fragment of St. Athanasius of Alexandria's Festal Letter in 367. Both sources list all of the books of the New Testament without exception. A local council, probably held at Rome in 382, set forth a complete list of the canonical books of both the Old and the New Testaments. The Scriptures are at the very heart of Orthodox worship and devotion. - The Orthodox Church Teachings
That would include
all of the writings.
3,898 posted on
01/04/2007 12:28:23 PM PST by
HarleyD
("No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him..." John 6:44)
To: HarleyD; kosta50; blue-duncan; bornacatholic; Blogger; xzins
HD, with all due respect to +Alexander, these books purporting to explicate Orthodoxy are seldom if ever complete or correct. They are a sort of, at best, a foretaste of Orthodoxy. To understand Orthodoxy, one needs to be fully conversant with the scriptures, read the Fathers and the declarations of the Ecumenical Councils and then "experience it" through living a liturgical year at least...or you can be born into it and take it seriously enough to believe.
3,932 posted on
01/04/2007 4:11:39 PM PST by
Kolokotronis
(Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
To: HarleyD
Peter included the epistles of Paul as Scripture and unless we want to say that the gospels and the other apostolic works in Scripture aren't Scripture- there is internal evidence that nails the canon down pretty well. The only books without apostolic origin would be Mark, Luke, Acts, Hebrews, James and Jude. Mark was a coworker with Peter and travelled with Paul. Luke was a friend of Paul. The writer of Hebrews is disputed. Some say Paul. Some say Apollos. We just don't know where that one came from for sure. And James and Jude were Christ's brothers. Frankly, any proclamations that the church made after 400 should be looked at carefully. Once Rome (i.e., the Roman Emperor) got involved with the church, one sees a drift away from Scriptural tenets.
4,576 posted on
01/09/2007 5:23:58 AM PST by
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