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To: fortheDeclaration
John. 3:5 is not speaking of water Baptism

"I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit" (John 3:5)

So if you think that water Baptism saved you, you are greatly deceived and are still lost in your sins

Thanks for your analysis, but I am Orthodox, and we don't believe salvation is a 'moment.'

12,868 posted on 04/16/2007 4:45:58 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
John. 3:5 is not speaking of water Baptism "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit" (John 3:5)

Yes, first you are born of water-physical life and then you need to be born again-by the Holy Spirit (1Cor.12:13).

The context of the passage is two births and water baptism isn't in the passage.

So if you think that water Baptism saved you, you are greatly deceived and are still lost in your sins Thanks for your analysis, but I am Orthodox, and we don't believe salvation is a 'moment.'

It seems that you believe water baptism had something to do with your salvation, which it doesn't.

One is saved by faith in the completed work of Christ (1Cor.15:3-5) and water baptism is a figure of that.(1Pe. 3:21).

12,885 posted on 04/17/2007 1:38:22 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (For what saith the scripture? (Rom.4:3))
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