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'The Nativity Story' Movie Problematic for Catholics, "Unsuitable" for Young Children
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 12/4/2006 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 12/04/2006 7:52:47 PM PST by Pyro7480

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To: redgolum; Blogger
I am a Lutheran, and quite frankly I think it is more than likely that Joseph and Mary did not have sex. It makes sense logically, and isn't contradicted in scripture. [...] Why?

In a perfect sola scriptura world that you occupy, this would be the only position to take. However, since Luther, Protestantism moved away to denial of things Catholic in general, at the exclusion of all reason, this is why.

2,241 posted on 12/19/2006 2:16:43 PM PST by annalex
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To: blue-duncan
the Neener Council of Aaaargh

I am sure you did.

2,242 posted on 12/19/2006 2:18:02 PM PST by annalex
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To: bornacatholic

Have a Douay (E Sword computer version), my wife bought me a New Jerusalem, and I have about a half dozen other translations laying by my bed. My wife gets annoyed when I am sitting in bed, with four or five Bibles spread out and a few commentaries.


2,243 posted on 12/19/2006 2:20:29 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum; Blogger
If you have problems with the having Mary as co redeemer and co mediatrix, then I can see your point.

People attack Marian pieties because they don't know how to worship God themselves, so anyone with a rich spiritual life is an irritant to them.

2,244 posted on 12/19/2006 2:21:40 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex

??? Not sure I got your point.


2,245 posted on 12/19/2006 2:26:42 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

That post is alone enough for ANYONE to come to the conclusion you are a good man...


2,246 posted on 12/19/2006 2:27:56 PM PST by bornacatholic (even though you ,inexplicably, disagree with me and are wrong sometimes :))
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To: blue-duncan; sitetest; BlackElk; mockingbyrd; xzins; redgolum; sandyeggo; Campion; adiaireton8
LOL

You know, it would be an interesting exercise to see evangelicals try to assemble at an Evangelical Ecumenical Council and hammer out just what are and are not the "fundamentals" of the Faith all evangelicals must agree upon to be considered orthodox Christians.

Has anythimg like that been considered?

2,247 posted on 12/19/2006 2:33:44 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: annalex

I can not find the exact article that I read. It has been several years I know, but I believe it had something to do with Catholic Feminists. Article below is an example of the train of thought, but not specifically about Mary...

http://www.thedailystar.com/opinion/letters/2005/06/lt0627.html


2,248 posted on 12/19/2006 2:36:04 PM PST by Blogger
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To: redgolum

I do have problems with it, and prefer to stick to what Scripture explicitly says about Mary. I believe it is explicit that she had other children. Some people disagree. I'm fine with that. I consider her as mother of other children a matter of interpretation. I consider her sinlessness anti-Scriptural. Her perpetual virginity, I consider a violation of the EWS, Until, but others disagree.

Mary with any titles of Christ, I object to. She is depicted in Scripture as Mother of Jesus and blessed among women. That's where I stand with Mary.


2,249 posted on 12/19/2006 2:39:02 PM PST by Blogger
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To: bornacatholic; blue-duncan; sitetest; BlackElk; mockingbyrd; xzins; sandyeggo; Campion; ...
You know, it would be an interesting exercise to see evangelicals try to assemble at an Evangelical Ecumenical Council and hammer out just what are and are not the "fundamentals" of the Faith all evangelicals must agree upon to be considered orthodox Christians.

I will bring the beer and sausage!

2,250 posted on 12/19/2006 2:39:22 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: bornacatholic

I s'pose you might speculate that it was because my life doesn't revolve around your posts.


2,251 posted on 12/19/2006 2:41:26 PM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger
There have been many apparitions and more blasphemous sayings- but these particular ones have been blessed by the church as being real or have at least received favorable attention by the Pope and others.

*That is simply a lie. Two consecutive Bishops of Mostar have declared the Medjugorge "apparitions" are not visions of Mary. Both Bishops have declared the seers liars.

Please, Sir. Take some time to learn the facts. When you make such posts, you do not prove the Catholic Church is heretical, you illustrate you do not know what you are talking about

2,252 posted on 12/19/2006 2:43:09 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: redgolum

I'll serve as an observer - if I am guaranteed safe passage :)


2,253 posted on 12/19/2006 2:44:05 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: Blogger

I could, but, because I am solipsistic, that would be an impossibility for me


2,254 posted on 12/19/2006 2:45:23 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: Blogger

In any event, I will note you continue to ignorte that post - as does every other sola scripturist


2,255 posted on 12/19/2006 2:46:11 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: redgolum

As a Catholic, I worship God at the sacrifice of the Mass. This is the primary and necessary element of the Christian worship. But I also worship God through the family and friends of Christ. That is Mary and the Communion of Saints, with whom I pray daily, whether or not I make it to Mass daily.

This rich spiritual life of a Catholic appears to irritiate, primarily, the new Protestant communities of faith, who worry that I will somehow take away from Christ by doing so. This is anyway my hypothesis, -- I can conceive of no other reason people would alot so much energy to the devotions they don't understand no matter how patiently we explain them.


2,256 posted on 12/19/2006 3:01:56 PM PST by annalex
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To: Blogger

What you show me has to do with the hatred some feminist feel toward the Papacy. I was wondering where is the substantiation that some Catholic groups pleaded with the Pope to deify Mary.


2,257 posted on 12/19/2006 3:03:43 PM PST by annalex
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To: Blogger
others disagree

Others familiar with the language in question disagree.

2,258 posted on 12/19/2006 3:05:47 PM PST by annalex
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To: bornacatholic
LOL! Nicely done!

I quite like your reductio ad absurdum of 'sola scriptura'. I must remember it for use in other contexts.

2,259 posted on 12/19/2006 3:40:11 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: bornacatholic

You learn them.

http://www.medjugorje.ws/en/articles/church.shepherds/pope-john-paul-ii-medjugorje/


2,260 posted on 12/19/2006 3:51:12 PM PST by Blogger
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