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Another One Takes the Plunge [swims the Tiber]
TexAnglican ^ | 6/01/2006 | Randall Foster

Posted on 06/02/2006 8:06:21 PM PDT by sionnsar

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To: RobbyS

I agree. It's either going to have to be Rome or Orthodoxy. Ft. Worth is "orthodox" now, but at some point Bishop Iker will retire and a new bishop will be elected. All bets off at that point.


21 posted on 06/03/2006 7:47:43 PM PDT by Cookie123
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How old is Bishop Iker?


22 posted on 06/03/2006 8:17:16 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS

Just looked it up on the Ft. Worth website. Bishop Iker was born in 1949 - 57 years old.


23 posted on 06/03/2006 8:55:27 PM PDT by Cookie123
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Is there a retirement age for Episcopal bishops? For us RC's the age is 75. If Iker makes it that long you are OK. Have heard nothing but good about him. My brother is Episcopal and he crosses the border fro Oklahoma to attend a church in Texas, in Iker'sdiocese.


24 posted on 06/03/2006 9:02:03 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: sionnsar

TexAnglican needs to realize that in the passage he cites from Galatians II, that Peter's actions are not a declaration Ex Cathedra, nor are they a statement from a duly declared (not necessarily called by the Pope) council, nor are they declarations made by the Pope and the Bishops scattered around the world in agreement. Peter's actions are just that, actions and therefore do not come into the realm of infallibility.


25 posted on 06/04/2006 9:41:15 AM PDT by amihow
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To: RobbyS

Not sure about the retirement age for bishops in ECUSA. Maybe some of the Episcopalians on here can answer that question.


26 posted on 06/05/2006 11:06:31 AM PDT by Cookie123
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To: amihow
Infallibility amounts more or less universal jurisdiction and is analogous to political sovereignty. Recalling to me the old notion that the function of the king of a nation was simply to proclaim what had always been law in the nation, in effect formalizing what had been informal.
27 posted on 06/05/2006 1:45:05 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS

Infallibility in the case of the Pope is not universal jurisdition, although he does have jurisdiction. It is about the power, given the Pope sometimes alone and sometime along with the bishops, not to teach error on faith or morals.

That is why fussing about Peter's acts is off point.


28 posted on 06/05/2006 7:15:18 PM PDT by amihow
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It is a monarchical right which makes it analogous to sovereignty. The definition by Vatican I makes sense only in the context of the events of the 1860s. More than anything else VI rather than VII marks the end of the age of Constantine. No reps of the Catholic rulers were invited and without the papal states, the pope is no longer imcumbered by secular authority.


29 posted on 06/05/2006 8:31:35 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: sionnsar

Taylor Marshall is a very fine young man of firm convictions. God love him. He is very brave like many of these new spiritual sons to the Ven. John Henry Cardinal Newman.


30 posted on 06/05/2006 8:45:54 PM PDT by Maeve (IC XC NIKA)
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To: RobbyS

I thought the issue was infallibility.


31 posted on 06/06/2006 8:23:18 AM PDT by amihow
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