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To: Eagle Eye; All
Isaiah 9:6 - For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace

John 20:27-28 Then He said to Thomas, "Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing." Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

Romans 9:3-5 - For I could wish that I myself were accursed, separated from Christ for the sake of my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh, who are Israelites, to whom belongs the adoption as sons, and the glory and the covenants and the giving of the Law and the temple service and the promises, whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.

God is spirit and no man has seen God at any time

Who did Adam and Eve see walking in the garden?
Who did Isaiah see sitting on the throne?
Who did Abraham sup with?
Who did Moses see in the cleft of the rock?

JM
46 posted on 03/22/2006 6:59:47 AM PST by JohnnyM
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To: JohnnyM
Again, you are failing to understand the unclear in light of the clear verses. Now you are going into some slighty more advanced areas, but no problem to me.

Your first jab regrading names: so what? A name doesn't make it a literal truth. Was Sarah truly a princess? Was Peter literally a rock or stone? No.

Your second regarding Thomas is the figure of speech hendiadys which is two words to emphasize one thought. This is no more literal than when Jesus called Peter 'satan' ('get thee behind me satan!)

Figures of speech are legitimate uses of language but one has to know when and where they are. Try verses that with lists and many "ands" (and Peter and Paul and Joseph...). That is polysyndoton. Lists with no "ands" is the figure asyndodon.

Did you know that puctuation does not exist in the cursives or uncils? ('original' greek texts) Since all puntuation in the KJV is manmade, there are errors in it. Thus, interpret inlight of clear verses.

Who did these people see? It wasn't God that they literally saw...unless you care to do battle with these clear and in context verses that say that God is invisible and unseen by man.

Jhn 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him].

1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom [be] honour and power everlasting. Amen.

1Jo 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

(speaking of Jesus) Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Ok, got the point? Clear verses first to set the ground rules, then use these guides to interpret the rest and then you'll get harmony and clarity from the scriptures.

47 posted on 03/22/2006 7:17:40 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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