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To: jo kus; Bohemund; Forest Keeper
Apostolic Tradition as related by the Church Fathers.

What precisely are you talking about when you talk about "apostolic tradition"? Is this some divine knowledge popped into someone's head like Pope Honorius or Leo? How do you determine who this is pass down to? The one that has the most votes? The most popular? The one who looks good in a white hat or who toes the party line?

Let me ask you point blank, if the apostalic tradition teaches that the Catholic Church is the ONE TRUE CHURCH then is there or is there not salvation outside of the Catholic Church?

That is because the Church was intent on PROTECTING God's word.

Please. You might be able to past the fertilizer on to someone else. The Council of Trent was only interested in keeping the interpretation of scriptures in a way that would save them face and keep the coffers ringing for building the lovely new Vatican. 100 years later they said they goof. So much for Apostalic tradition. They never refunded the indulgence money.

5,531 posted on 05/03/2006 5:03:51 PM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luk 24:45)
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To: HarleyD; jo kus; Dr. Eckleburg; qua; kosta50; blue-duncan
the Church was intent on PROTECTING God's word.

Are you contending that God's Word needed protecting? I have a story from Numbers for you if so.

5,533 posted on 05/03/2006 5:10:37 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings
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To: HarleyD
Let me ask you point blank, if the apostalic tradition teaches that the Catholic Church is the ONE TRUE CHURCH then is there or is there not salvation outside of the Catholic Church?

No. But I have already explained this to you. One does not have to be a Roman Catholic to be saved - nor does being a Roman Catholic prove salvation has been won. There is no salvation outside the Church - but Vatican 2 has made this clear that some may exist who are part of the Catholic Church and not "know" it.

Regards

5,540 posted on 05/03/2006 5:20:54 PM PDT by jo kus (I will run the way of thy commandments, when thou shalt enlarge my heart...Psalm 119:32)
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