See you state the Mormon thing is different...this is your view, but I would guess that the Mormons themselves would take issue with you on this point...you have your opinion and they have theirs...
I wish I could stay longer and discuss further, but unfortunately real life does intervene, and I have to go, and will be away from the computer for several days, only having a few minutes here or there to come on to FR...but have enjoyed this discussion, and enjoyed your 'civility'...
But the Mormons are different, because they view Jesus as less than Almighty God Himself, and they add works to salvation, where Jesus does not. He did all the work Himself, thank God