Posted on 06/18/2005 7:56:25 AM PDT by sionnsar
Delusional Anglicans are a dime a dozen these days and it takes something very special to separate yourself from the herd. So let's put it this way. All the other delusional Anglicans in the world are still hacking away on the first fairway while New Westminster's Anglican Bishop Michael Ingham has finished eighteen holes and is sitting in the clubhouse knocking back cold ones:
The Episcopal Church needs to play a stronger role in the Anglican Communion, particularly on the issues currently dividing it, according to the Rt. Rev. Michael Ingham, Bishop of New Westminster in the Anglican Church of Canada. Bishop Ingham is the Canadian observer to Executive Council and addressed a plenary on the final day of the June 13-16 meeting in Louisville, Ky.
“Your voice in recent years has been muted out of a deep concern for the rest,” Bishop Ingham said. “I don’t think it is well understood how much the Episcopal Church has been a critic of U.S. government policy. Too often U.S. Anglicans are seen as identical to the U.S. government.”
A speech by the Rt. Rev. Catherine Roskam, Bishop Suffragan of New York, at the 1998 Lambeth Conference of Bishops was a notable exception, but otherwise U.S. bishops were largely silent, Bishop Ingham said.
“Too often the Episcopal Church displays a sensitivity bordering on timidity,” he said. “You need to take your place within the Communion without apology.”
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The Sam Hill?!!
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Nope, the words are still on the screen.
Do this sort of thing long enough and every so often you will run across an item that almost cannot be commented upon. Someone says something so spectacularly clueless, so mind-blowingly dense or so incredibly idiotic that all you can do is sit, stare at your monitor for a very long time and hope that somebody at Living Church is yanking your chain. Mike Ingham actually thinks the Episcopal Church hasn't been Episcopal enough?!!
Let's break this one down, shall we? Ingham believes that ECUSA's "voice in recent years has been muted out of a deep concern for the rest?" With all due respect, Bishop, are you freaking kidding me, you fatuous dolt? When was that exactly, Mike? Since it supposedly has all this "deep concern for the rest," I guess that means that ECUSA knew about the violent opposition to the confirmation of Gene Robinson and the approval of same-sex marriages. ECUSA confirmed Robbie and approved same-sex marriages(yes they did, Mike) anyway.
In October, 2003, Frank Griswold met with the other primates of the Anglican Communion. The primates issued a statement saying that the confirmation of Robbie would tear the Anglican world apart. Frank Griswold signed that statement, came home, lied through his teeth about the statement he'd signed and happily gave Robbie his pointy hat. Maybe it's me but I don't see a whole lot of "deep concern for the rest" of the Anglican world here, Mike.
Then there's this. "Too often the Episcopal Church displays a sensitivity bordering on timidity." I know Mike was born in England and has been in Canada for a long time but HUH?!! Apart from expelling heretics from its priesthood and from the ranks of its bishops and teaching and preaching orthodox Christianity, when has the Episcopal Church ever been timid about anything?
It was a long time ago but I don't remember ECUSA approaching a Lambeth Conference in fear and trembling and telling the assembled bishops that it was thinking about ordaining women and what did they think? When ECUSA relieved itself all over revised the Book of Common Prayer, they turned perhaps the greatest piece of devotional literature in the English language into dull, inoffensive liberal mush. And at it's 2003 General Convention, ECUSA gave a pointy hat to an unrepentant sinner, allowed same-sex marriages(yes they did, Mike) and tore the Anglican world apart. Not a lot of "sensitivity bordering on timidity" that I can see, Mike.
When Frank Griswold steps down next year, this site will feel it. I'll seriously miss the big guy. And none of the current crop of candidates for PrezBish approach Frank in magisterial mendacity. So I would like to take this opportunity to formally nominate Michael Ingham for the position of Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church of the United States of America. It would be an unbelievably wild ride.
Traditional Anglican ping, continued in memory of its founder Arlin Adams. Geez, if you guys can talk some of the more notorious members of the USCCB into switching "parties," they might make it a horserace!
Is it just ECUSA that uses the revised Book of Common Prayer or did others follow?
I'm becoming a big fan of Chris Jhnsons' since I was first introduced to his writings when you started posting them...however, in reading them, he does seem to be atempting to "out-virtue" David Virtue..the level of rhetoric is escalating..
".the level of rhetoric is escalating.."
OTOH, maybe the level of stupidity at the top has been escalating.
Romans 1:21: for though they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their senseless minds were darkened.
Yikes. I'm too deep into this -- I knew exactly where to go for the answer. I was about to write that I did not believe ECUSA's 1979 "BCP" (to use a Dr. Peter Toon-ism) was in use anywhere else, but then a little question arose.
I will note that this page is not complete. The image to the right is a link to the Book of Common Prayer in Farsi (Iran).
Here are other translations and their origins. (I cannot read them, but I think the left-hand image is Arabic and for reasons I can't explain something about the characters makes me think the one on the right is Japanese, though it's more likely Taiwanese Chinese.)
And here are C of E and ECUSA BCPs.
That was my thought too.
I'm Catholic myself, but I have a great affection for the traditional Prayer Book -- through C.S. Lewis, mainly, though I bought one in graduate school, primarily for a paper I was doing on T.S. Eliot.
I have followed the depredations (so like those in our own liturgy) with sadness!
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