The Denomination Called Catholic

To redeem something is to recover its value.

To save something is to rescue it from some peril or loss.

Similar, but different.

Jesus redeemed man by desmonstrating the value of the human person, thereby re-establishing man's value.

Jesus saved man by exchanging his life for man's sins, thereby sparing from hell those men who are willing to acknowledge the great price paid by Christ.

As liberal Protestantism shows a continuing incapacity to resist secularism both in society and in the churches themselves, anti-secularist members of these churches will be faced with three options. One is to stay and fight, a fight that becomes increasingly discouraging with the passage of time. A second is to switch by joining a conservative Protestant sect. And a third is to join the Catholics. There is no way of predicting what proportions will choose which option, but Catholicism is already getting its share. These new Catholics are deliberate and self-conscious opponents of the denominational ideal, and their mere presence in the Church slows the Catholic drift toward absolute denominationalism.

Bingo.

We got four of 'em right here. And we resist the Protestantization of the Catholic Church at every turn. I've had occasion to speak out a couple of times already.

The corruption of the clergy is very far advanced. I believe that the American Church as we have known it cannot survive.

Tridentine masses will not help, only a rejection of the glamor of evil, of the Devil, and of all of his works. At least here in this Diocese the Lavender Mob is in total control, total control by utterly unrepentant mortal sinners.

Tridentine Masses are the basis for any sort of true restoration of the faith. Because the mass is at the heart of the faith. Destroy the mass - and all else falls like dominos.......haven't we seen this already?

But, you pointed out something very important: nothing positive and lasting will happen without such a "rejection of evil", and of the Devil himself.

Until you get rid of the "unrepentant mortal sinners" who are at the helm, nothing of any lasting value will be accomplished.

." I believe that the American Church as we have known it cannot survive."

Yes - that was the opinion of the late Fr. Malachi Martin and others. That the "house of cards" would implode upon itself. The man-made insitutional structure of the Church is to corrupt to survive. As it has inessense rejected Christ - so to will he reject it!

But the Church which Christ founded - the teachings, sacraments, etc. will live on.....in a new suit of clothes.

The Gates of Hell itself will not prevail. Those damned Gates sure are close, though, these days.

There is a remnant here in the USA, frighteningly small, of good priests. Enough to build something beautiful on the rubble of the past.

The ones who will come through this still good men are good men indeed. Really, fifty or a hundred good priests will be enough in this country. Even ten. Get rid of the rest.

There is a remnant here in the USA, frighteningly small, of good priests. Enough to build something beautiful on the rubble of the past."

I would not venture to say exactly how many of them there are........but its not much. As to the number needed......well think of it this way:

If what is left of the NO establishment crumbles in the next decade......as the NO clergy die out along with much of the laity (who are mostly elderly).......you will see the rise of the Traditional Mass, sacraments, teaching, etc. Yes, it will be very small at first.

But, if that were to happen tomorrow (or even a few years from now).....how many NO Catholics would go to mass then?
My guess would be few - as they have been poisoned with the worst of the revolutionary spirit of dissent and apostacy.
They have been trained to want the bad music....Teletubbies/Barney/clowns dancing in the sanctuary.......they have been taught to essentially worship themselves intead of God. Not all NO Catholics are this way......but a frighteningly large number are getting this way.

Some NO Catholics would go to the TLM if that were all that were offered - those who still had the gift of faith. But all too many, who have no faith would walk away from Christ under these circumstances. This is due to the fact that the faith of many is purely "cultural Catholicism".

Someone in the early 60s said that Vatican II and the new mass would be a test of faith.....to see who could endure all, even to the last straw, to the end.

They were right.

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