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To: bornacatholic

"Post a link to the Magisterial Teaching the Old Covenant is revoked."

St. Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho the Jew:

"I have read, Trypho, that there will be a final law, and a covenant the most authoritative of all, which must be observed by all men who seek after the inheritance of God. That law on Horeb is old, and was only for you; but this is for all in general.

A law set down after another law abrogates that which was before it, and a covenant made later likewise VOIDS that which was earlier. An eternal and final law, the Christ, is given to us, a faithful covenant after which there shall be no law, no precept, no commandment."

St. Augustine, Contra adversarium legis et prophetarum libri duo:

"Just as the knowledge that we now have will be "put away" as the Apostle says, when we have that knowledge which he calls "face to face", so too it is necessary that the things given in shadows to the Jews in the Old Testament be put away by the revelation of the New Testament."

Pope St. Leo I (The Great), Sermons 63,5:

"For although He is the Author both of the old ways and of the new, still, He changed the sacraments of the prefigured promises, because He fulfilled the promises and put an end to announcements by His coming as the Announced."


301 posted on 11/15/2004 3:28:42 PM PST by Tantumergo
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To: Tantumergo
Ezekiel 37

21 And thou shalt say to them: Thus saith the Lord God: Behold, I will take of the children of Israel from the midst of the nations whither they are gone: and I will gather them on every side, and will bring them to their own land.

22 And I will make them one nation in the land on the mountains of Israel, and one king shall be king over them all: and they shall no more be two nations, neither shall they be divided any more into two kingdoms.

23 Nor shall they be defiled any more with their idols, nor with their abominations, nor with all their iniquities: and I will save them out of all the places in which they have sinned, and I will cleanse them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.

24 And my servant David shall be king over them, and they shall have one shepherd: they shall walk in my judgments, and shall keep my commandments, and shall do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land which I gave to my servant Jacob, wherein your fathers dwelt, and they shall dwell in it, they and their children, and their children's children, for ever: and David my servant shall be their prince for ever.

26 And I will make a covenant of peace with them,it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will establish them, and will multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for ever.

* The reason I posted the dialogue from the Catholic Legate was for your benefit. Sungenis is wrong - probably due to his hateful antisemitism - and Pacheo is right. The reason we know Pacheo is right is because his opinions are in line with the Living Magisterium. The reason we know you and Sungenis are wrong is because your opinions are not in line with the Living Magisterium. It really isn't complicated.

Your intellect and will (Sungenesis' also) do not supplant, only oppose, the Living Magisterium.

Only God could "revoke" what He establishes. Of course we humans can break the covenant. That is easy. It is also easy to oppose the authority established by the Triune God (You are doing it on these pages)but that doesn't mean the Divinely established authority is broken or revoked.

Now, you were wrong asserting the Pope taught Heaven wasn't a place and you are wrong about the Living Magisterium re the covenant not being revoked.

You have yet to post where it was revoked. I once read a helpful analogy. Maybe it will be helpful to you. When we go to College, we don't revoke our high school diploma.

Covenants are successive. They are made between ever-expanding groups of people. First, the covenant is between a couple, then a family, then a tribe, then a nation, then a country which rules other nations, and, finally, a univeral covenant including all peooples of all nations.

That does not mean all the previous covenants are revoked.

In other words, the Living Magisterium is right. You are wrong.

302 posted on 11/18/2004 6:05:26 AM PST by bornacatholic
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To: Tantumergo
The Book of Genesis

Chapter 17

The Covenant of circumcision.

1 And after he began to be ninety and nine years old, the Lord appeared to him: and said unto him: I am the Almighty God: walk before me, and be perfect.

2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee: and I will multiply thee exceedingly.

3 Abram fell flat on his face.

4 And God said to him: I am, and my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.

5 Neither shall thy name be called any more Abram: but thou shalt be called Abraham: because I have made thee a father of many nations.

6 And I will make thee increase exceedingly, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee, and between thy seed after thee in their generations, by a perpetual covenant: to be a God to thee, and to thy seed after thee. ...

303 posted on 11/18/2004 8:31:37 AM PST by bornacatholic
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