Religeous fundamentalism - Christian, Islamic and Judaic.

[ADeanDemocrat]

I would like to hear from other people whether they feel that George Bush is a devout Christian or not. I consider myself a devout Christian, and feel very uncomfortable with George Bush painting himself as being representative of my religeon.

It appears to me that fundamentalists within all the major religeons - Christianity, Islam and Judaism - are interested in heading our planet toward Armageddon. True Christians, Muslims and Jews ascribe themselves to the principles of religeous tolerence and peaceful co-existence.

I am interested in the opinions of others here re: this matter.

[Not A Snowbird]

RKBA-6-ACTUAL TO ALL RKBA ELEMENTS: COMMENCE INDEPENDENT AND/OR COORDINATED OPERATIONS AT WILL.

ROGER!

[Not A Snowbird]

Here. Smoke some more of these. You'll feel better...

[scott0347]

[King Prout]

mine blinketh not, but goes from a gray "Pings" to a red "New Posts to You"

[Not A Snowbird]

Oooh, pretty pics! Those deserve some memorial water lilies!

[DocRock]

"True Christians, Muslims and Jews ascribe themselves to the principles of religeous tolerence and peaceful co-existence.

I am interested in the opinions of others here re: this matter."

While we're waiting for the paving crew to pave your stuned beeber, let's tell some Bible stories. I don't pretend to speak for anyone on this site but myself, so don't paint everyone here with the same brush. (I plan on doing some painting later, but that's a different story).

So, let's start way back in Gen. 14 with Abraham because "True Christians, Muslims and Jews" all consider him as their father and a great man of God. But what happened when some bad people took Lot, his nephew? Well in verse 14 the Scripture tells us, "And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his trained servants,..." Where did he get those arms? He had them already. Not only did he have them, but everybody in his household knew how to use them. Because "...he armed his trained servants, born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and pursued them unto Dan." This is not an offensive move, but defensive. The ungodly had attacked first and these actions were to get his nephew back. Abraham defeated the bad guys, rescued Lot and got all his stuff back. On the way home, they ran into Melchizedek.

When you read Hebrews 7, you'll find that Melchizedek was the pre-incarnate Jesus Christ. If Abraham had done anything wrong, right then would have been the time for God to correct him and say, "You shouldn't have done that as a Christian. You shouldn't have taken up arms." But notice what Melchizedek did. Verses 19 and 20 say, "And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all." God was not displeased.

Too Old Testament for you? Well, let's fast forward to the New Testament for a refresher course. Luke 22:35 says, "And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing." This is Jesus talking to his disciples. "Then he said unto them, But now,..." This is a big But now, so pay attention because Jesus is getting his disciples ready to minister on this earth without him. These are final instructions before he heads to the cross for our sins. "But now, He that hath a purse, let him take it,..." Keep your money with you. "...And likewise his scrip:..." That is your Bible. "...And he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." (Luke 22:36) That's right, your weapon is more important than the clothes on your back. "For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me,..." Jesus is speaking of his own death. He said, "Now look, I have to die, but you don't". "... And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end." (Luke 22:37) That's his earthly ministry.

Now liberals will always say that the word sword refers to the Bible, but it obviously doesn't as he mentions this in scrip.

Now, for some of the Scripture which I feel is the most mis-quoted in modern times.

Mathew 26:51 And behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched forth his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear. 52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up thy sword into his place: OK, stop right there for a minute. Jesus didn't tell him to put his sword away, or disarm. He told him to put it in it's place. That would be back on his side, ready for use. And now, this is the most currently misquoted Scripture. for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Hmmm. Go look it up. It says they that take weapons will die by weapons. (Looking for your Bible? Make sure it is the correct King James, not some corrupted English translation.)

I'll be on standby for the painting while your looking.

[scott0347]

Here is something to read while we finish toying with you

[DocRock]

KP, I think Bidden may be talking about people like you and me in this speech he gave at the DNC a few days ago. Sounds like he wants to put us under the sword. I know he is being ambiguous on purpose, but he is directing his comments at people that "quote Scripture". What do you think? I think he means us and he is catering to the god haters.

Transcript:

Our friends on the other side love to quote the Bible.
Just as Joshua's trumpets brought down the walls of Jericho, just as American values brought down the Berlin Wall,
So will radical Fundamentalists fall to the terrible swift power of our ideas as well as our swords.

[scott0347]

[DocRock]

Ah, painting time!

[King Prout]

well, [expletive]: I quote scripture now and then, and I'm a skeptical agnostic.

If Biden wants a piece of me, he'd better send well-armed lackeys in the first few waves before showing his pasty dumb ass on my porch.

[DocRock]

Same here. I couldn't help but notice some good stuff on your homepage from the Koran. I started reading the Koran online Sept.11, 2001. I noticed within 3 days that everywhere it had Infidel (Jew) and Unbeliever (Christian) that it was removed and simply said Infidel and Unbeliever. I rubbed my eyes and looked over some copy/paste notes I had and sure enough, the entire Koran had been "cleansed". As I do some ftp uploading to a couple sites, I can tell you that you can't edit that online and it must be uploaded which is much slower than downloading. IMHO, the sight owners had a sanitized version of the Koran ready to upload when the fecal matter hit the oscillator. And on a side note, I went into my local bookstore around Sept. 14, 2001 and asked for a copy of the Koran. Everybody got quiet and turned to look at me. I looked around and said (where everyone could hear me), "You should get a copy, too! Read it and you'll know what drives our enemy!".

[visualops]

Dang that's gotta be the best Zot pic ever!

[Cvengr]

Why are you so worried about whether or not Bush is a devout Christian? It's really an issue between him and God.

We might faithfully pray to God that our leaders follow His will and remain faithful to Him, but that is still an issue between them and not our business to interfere or accuse.

Criminal behavior in the office of the Presidency such as that committed by Clinton was a completely different issue.

[MeekOneGOP]

Deja Moo.... the feeling you have heard this bull before

hehe! Your tagline reminds me of my FreeRepublic.com Pinger I use. I alternate them for variety. (See the three URLs at the VERY BOTTOM of my post here).

The "Pig" and "Cow" I imagine Hillary calling me to a new comment. The "Puppy? That's Jean Keri "Poodle-boy" saying "FR wants you", hehe!:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1035558/posts?page=171#171

Did you know you can do this to the FR Pager?
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/notify?spoken=no;bell=http://www.neatostudio.com/32dohs.wav
Now, instead of the little ding, you will here Homer 'Dohs You can replace everything after bell= with your own WAV link.

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http://MrGrumman.home.comcast.net/Cow.au
http://MrGrumman.home.comcast.net/Pig.au
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[King Prout]

I said much the same thing when I picked up a replacement copy a year or so ago: "The better to know mine Enemy"
those exact words, as a matter of fact, archaism included.

[King Prout]

ah!
been scoping my shorthand section, or didja pick up "deja moo" elsewhere?

[The Scourge of Yazid]

I'm glad that there are so many observant "Dean Democrats" out there.

Hey, I wonder if he can quote us some verses from all those cool books in the Old Testament, like Luke, John, Paul, Revelations...

Howard Dean:

(Reading a copy of "Scripture for Idiots." Puts down book. Rolls up sleeves. Pumps fists into the air. Gets "crazy eyes.")

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[4mycountry]

Here is the short version of how a ZOT works:

[King Prout]

I claim to be the initiator of the phrase "Izzat OZONE I smell?"