Father Zigrang suspended by Bishop Joseph Fiorenza

Christ or Chaos ^ | 15th July 2004 | Dr Thomas Droleskey

[sinkspur]

You must have the same problem as Black Elk with his morbid obsession of deceased priests? Has it ever occurred to you, that your hero Paul VI, inventor of his own personalized Mass, and suppressor of the Mass of All Time, is also deceased?

You posted the quote from the dead priest. I just noted that he was, in fact, dead.

We'll all be dead, eventually, LOI.

[Siobhan]

I pray he appealed and won. But I am afraid to hear the answer.

At some point, a priest is going to take the USCCB and the Vatican into the courts either here or at the World Court for violation of human rights by violation of its own internal process etc.

Of course, Adamec isn't a bishop any more, but that is an entirely different assertion on my part...

[Land of the Irish]

I don't have time to point them out right now, but this Drolesky gem is a cornacopia of neo-schismatic errors.

You don't "have time" because you can't do it. Typical hit and run from a modernist.

[Saint Athanasius]

The Priest should have been suspended... and I am glad the Bishop suspended him.

[gbcdoj]

even though Rome says it fulfills the Sunday obligation and is NOT sinful

Attending a SSPX service isn't sinful, but receiving Holy Communion from them when a moral or physical impediment doesn't exist preventing the reception of the Sacrament from all Catholic priests is.

[Saint Athanasius]

Watch who you call evil!

[sinkspur]

At some point, a priest is going to take the USCCB and the Vatican into the courts either here or at the World Court for violation of human rights by violation of its own internal process etc.

I doubt it.

[gbcdoj]

Wow! And you must consider that a "wide and generous application" of the Indult!

I never said it was. Is it a sin to say Mass according to the reformed rite of Paul VI? Superiors are to be obeyed in all things but sin.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Thank goodness the altar tables of the diocese are safe for liturgical dancing, pagan sacrifices, promiscuous, homosexual priests and protected from the likes of a traditional priest!

Brrrr!

[Saint Athanasius]

You need to respect the clergy...

If I ever considered SSPX correct, it definitely would not because the charity shown...

[Saint Athanasius]

You know what I love about traditionalist that rag on the Pope and think they are more catholic than him...

The fact that they are Protestants using Sola Tradition rather than Sola Scriptora... I really wish they would see this.

[Siobhan]

Quoting the room-temperature Oswald Baker, whose congregation numbered 20 before his retirement.

Faux Man of God makes faux pas
in pas de Dieu.
News at 11.

And yes I mean pas de Dieu.

[AAABEST]

I am not getting into an SSPX argument here.

You no longer have to place that qualifier in front of your posts, those days are coming to an end. You're safe to say there is a cancer in the modern church that doesn't exist within the Society. The attempts to marginalize us with hasn't worked, the sea change in the sympathies within this forum alone can attest to that.

It's becoming apparent to anyone who doesn't have scales over their eyes that what our "leadership" allows to happen and condones is senseless at best, evil at worst.

The duplicitous wickedness that tolerates all manner of deviant evil and criminality while bringing the hammer down full force on those who simply choose to worship as our parents is unconscionable. This is sheer madness.

"Disobedience" huh.

[sinkspur]

You're the one who wants to involve the friggin' WORLD COURT in the Church's business.

That's not likely to happen in anybody's lifetime around here.

And, no American could possibly be in favor of that.

[Siobhan]

I doubt it.

Of course, you do because I said it. No great wonder there.

[Land of the Irish]

We'll all be dead, eventually, LOI.

Right, and we better be prepared to meet our final judgment, and it won't be Fiorenza's or John Paul II's judgment of us.

According to the likes of you and some from Rome, I'm going to Hell because I'm a so-called "schismatic", while the Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists go to Heaven. The Tridentine Mass if forbidden at the main altar of St. Peter's Basilica but the new Fatima Shrine, with Rome's sanction, offers it's altar to the Hindus.

Why did Christ even bother to establish His Church? Why did He commit an anti-Semitic act when, upon His death; the Temple's curtain was rent in two?

Why did God do that if the Jews have their own covenant with Him?

[sinkspur]

According to the likes of you and some from Rome, I'm going to Hell because I'm a so-called "schismatic"

You're not going to hell. Nobody who sends IT jokes through email will ever get near eternal flame.

[Siobhan]

You're the one who wants to involve the friggin' WORLD COURT in the Church's business.

No, not I, you poor soul.