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To: billbears
Except that the 'history' of Peter's death wasn't recorded until the 4th century if I'm not mistaken.

First off, Christianity was illegal until the 4th Century. Underground, persecuted sects don't leave truckloads of documents lying around.

However, Ignatius of Antioch (d. 110) states clearly that Peter and Paul were in Rome.

Irenaeus of Lyons (d 180) states clearly that Peter and Paul were in Rome.

Those are just two examples I can think of off the top of my head. There are certainly others. Do you have any counterexamples?

The rock Christ spoke of was faith, not a man.

Which has nothing whatsoever to do with the question of where Peter was buried.

14 posted on 04/21/2004 10:26:06 AM PDT by Campion
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To: billbears
Tertullian wrote in Prescription against the Heretics that Peter was crucified in Rome and Paul was beheaded there.

He wrote that around AD 200.

23 posted on 04/21/2004 10:52:29 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion
And the memory that the early church left us about Peter's martyrdom is crystal clear: he was crucified upside down in Rome during the reign of Nero.

But neither Ignatius or Iranaeus report of Peter's death do they? The memory of the early church isn't 'crystal clear' on this issue it seems

Underground, persecuted sects don't leave truckloads of documents lying around.

Mysteriously somehow recorded copies of the Gospel were able to survive, surely a little note about Peter's death could have made it as well. That is if it happened as stated

24 posted on 04/21/2004 10:54:03 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: Campion
Underground, persecuted sects don't leave truckloads of documents lying around.

Oh, I don't know -- the salamikazes seem to be doing a lot of that in Iraq and Afghanistan.... ;-)

54 posted on 04/21/2004 2:15:31 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Campion
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with the question of where Peter was buried.

True, but since when does it matter if we stay on track around here?

66 posted on 04/21/2004 4:08:14 PM PDT by Gamecock
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