To: Viva Christo Rey
In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered.
To: Viva Christo Rey
I doubt that Pope Leo XIII looks down and appreciates your inference, sir. Don't put our own intentions into his holy prayer for the Church.
61 posted on
04/04/2004 1:15:57 PM PDT by
broadsword
(The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
To: Viva Christo Rey
In all fairness, brother, what if I were to imply that the Pope wrote these words in reference to you: This wicked dragon pours out, as a most impure flood, the venom of his malice on men of depraved mind and corrupt heart, the spirit of lying, of impiety, of blasphemy...
Why don't you just say the prayer and hope in God's infinite wisdom and providence, without trying to slander the man He chose for Pope in these most difficult times for the Church?
I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. It's just that your post differs little from the classic Protestant "Whore of Babylon" blasphemy. Why don't you just let the Pope's prayer speak for itself.
63 posted on
04/04/2004 1:22:28 PM PDT by
broadsword
(The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
To: Viva Christo Rey
The prayer is referring to the invasion of Rome by the Italian nationalists under Victor Emmanuel. It is not a prophecy, especially not of the Apostolic See becoming occupied by the Antichrist.
See Fr. Anthony Cekada's article Russia and the Leonine Prayers:
In 1934 a German writer, Father Bers, investigated the origins of the story of Leos vision. Wherever one looks, he observed, one may find this claim but nowhere a trace of proof....
- Writings which promote the story give no references to sources.
- The various accounts contradict each other as to where the vision supposedly took place after Mass at the foot of the altar, or in a conference with cardinals.
- The various accounts are inconsistent about the date of the vision.
- The dates the accounts give for the alleged vision (1880, 1884 and 1888) do not correspond with the date when the St. Michael prayer was actually instituted (1886).
- There appears to be no corroboration for the story in a contemporary account which one would expect to have mentioned the event, had it indeed taken place.
These considerations all tend to support the conclusion Father Bers arrived at in the 1930s: that the vision had been invented in later times for some reason, and that the story was simply feeding upon itself.
...
To sum up, then: The lengthy 1888 prayer to St. Michael was composed after the St. Michael prayer in the Leonine Prayers appeared. The passages in the 1888 text which are supposedly prophetic refer in fact to the Italian governments seizure of Church property. Once the King of Italy appeared willing to arrive at a settlement of the Roman Question, the Vatican dropped from the prayer passages which he and the Italian government would have found offensive.
65 posted on
04/04/2004 1:40:21 PM PDT by
gbcdoj
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